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Town Board Minutes
May 17, 2004
At the Regular Meeting of the Town Board, Town of Clay, Onondaga County, held at the
Town Hall, Clay, New York on the 17th of May, 2004 at 7:30 P.M., there were:
PRESENT:
Mark Rupprecht
Supervisor
James Rowley
Councilor/Deputy Supervisor
David R. Palmer
Councilor
Clarence A. Rycraft
Councilor
Naomi Bray
Councilor
Damian M. Ulatowski
Councilor
Vivian I. Mason
Town Clerk
David Tessier
Commissioner of Planning & Development
Robert Germain
Town Attorney
Doug Wickman
Town Engineer
ABSENT:
Robert L. Edick
Councilor
The meeting was called to order by Supervisor Rupprecht at 7:30 P.M. All present joined in
the Pledge of Allegiance.
Approval of Minutes:
Councilor Ulatowski moved the adoption of a resolution approving the Minutes of the Regular
Town Board Meeting held on May 3, 2004. Motion was seconded by Councilor Rowley.
Ayes-6 and Noes-0. Carried.
Correspondence/Other Business: None.
Zone change - Town Board Case #898 (PH) - ELLEN DUDLEY, HILARY CLINGER
and DANE DUDLEY (GOLD DUST SALON, LLC):
A public hearing to consider the application of ELLEN DUDLEY, HILARY CLINGER
and DANE DUDLEY (GOLD DUST SALON, LLC) for a change of zone from Agricultural (A-1) District to Office and Retail Store (C-2) District on property located
at 8565 Morgan Road, (Tax Map # 055.-01-14.1) was opened by the Supervisor. Proof of
publication and posting was furnished by the Town Clerk.
Jeff Davis, of Hiscock and Barclay, LLP, explained that the parcel is almost on the southwest
corner of State Route 31 and Morgan Road. Locating it by tax map, he noted that this parcel
is about 141 feet from the intersection. They feel the recommended zoning of this parcel under
the 1999 Route 31 & Route 57 Land Use and Circulation Study is not what they are seeking,
but they feel because the area has changed this parcel should be commercial. He noted that the
town Planning Board recommended approval based on the existing changes in the area.
Supervisor Rupprecht read the Onondaga County Planning Board’s recommendation for
disapproval because they feel the zone change would not be consistent with the surrounding
area or land use proposed by the Route 31 & Route 57 Land Use and Circulation Study.
Councilor Bray noted that the land use at that intersection has had a dramatic impact and that
it is a “red flag” area and the board needs to be cautious with changes in that area.
Councilor Rowley asked what size structure could be built in a C-2 and Commissioner Tessier
said a 15,000 square foot structure.
Russ Mitchell of Clairmont-Four Seasons stated that he would like the Hamlet of Clay kept in
character. He added that he didn’t feel the C-2 would be detrimental to the character.
Supervisor Rupprecht asked if there were any further comments or questions and there were
none. The Supervisor asked for those in favor and those opposed and there were none. All
persons wishing to be heard having been heard the hearing was closed.
Zone change - Town Board Case #900 (PH) - ENRICO SCARDA, ESQ., and CLAY
COMMONS PARTNERSHIP:
A public hearing to consider the application of ENRICO SCARDA, ESQ., and CLAY
COMMONS PARTNERSHIP, for a change of zone from Office (C-1) District to Shopping Center (C-5) District on property located on 8121 Oswego Road, (Tax Map #066.-01-47.1) was opened by the Supervisor. Proof of publication and posting was furnished
by the Town Clerk.
Chris Danaher, with Shulman Curtin Grundner & Regan, P.C., who is representing the
applicant, explained that this request is for a .6 acre parcel that they would like to merge with
their C-5 shopping center. Next to this parcel is an insurance office that is zoned C-1. The next
parcel is the mobile home court.
Supervisor Rupprecht asked if they would need a variance for this parcel and Mr. Danaher said
he did not know at this point.
Councilor Bray asked if there was C-5 property that was not developed yet and Mr. Danaher
said yes. She also asked if there was a recommendation from the Onondaga County Planning
Board. Supervisor Rupprecht read the OCPB recommendation that states that there will be no
significant adverse implications, but added two comments, one regarding drainage and the
other regarding access, which they would like through Clay Commons.
Councilor Rycraft asked if this parcel was to be part of the Clay Commons shopping center, and
Mr. Danaher stated that they would like this to be an out parcel. Councilor Rycraft then asked
if this parcel would help them better develop the existing shopping center and make
improvements to it.
Lee Rosner, a partner of Clay Commons Partnership, said yes.
Councilor Palmer said that with not knowing what would be built on this parcel, he had to look
at its most intense use. He would like an environmental impact statement. If there was a
separate curb cut he has concerns. It is a major intersection and full development of the other
undeveloped acres could have a big impact.
Councilor Bray commented that she had not realized there was so much undeveloped C-5 land.
There would be a potential impact on the intersection with full development.
Mr. Rosner stated that there were 14½ acres already developed and a remaining 12½
undeveloped acres.
Supervisor Rupprecht said he felt it was premature to ask for an environmental impact
statement.
Russ Mitchell said he agrees that this should be a C-5; it’s a small parcel. He added that the
Planning Board had talked about a right in, right out access.
Supervisor Rupprecht asked if there were any further comments or questions and there were
none.
Motion was made by Councilor Palmer to adjourn the public hearing to June 7, 2004, to
commence at 7:38 P.M. local time. Motion was seconded by Councilor Ulatowski.
Ayes-6 and Noes-0. Carried.
Zone change (PH) - Town Board Case #899 - CARL ERIKSON and ERIKSON LAND COMPANY,
INC.:
A public hearing to consider the application of CARL ERIKSON and ERIKSON LAND
COMPANY, INC., for a change of zone from Office (C-1) District to Office and Retail
Store (C-2) District on property located at 3571 State Route 31 (Tax Map No. 019.-02-28.1) was opened by the Supervisor. Proof of publication and posting was furnished by the
Town Clerk.
Carl Erikson explained that this house takes up a corner portion of the parcel where his new
Meineke shop is being constructed. They would like to open an embroidery/screen printing
shop. There is other commercial business in the area, and this business would have limited
traffic, as most of the business is outside sales. The only change in the house would be the
addition of handicap access. The parcel consists of .3 acres.
Councilor Palmer said he would like the driveway to be shared with the adjacent muffler shop.
Councilor Rycraft questioned the arterial setback, and Commissioner Tessier noted that it is a
legal non-conforming structure and the arterial setback wouldn’t apply.
Carol Romano said the house is appropriate for what she wants to use it for and it is in excellent
condition.
Dave Arnold said he was against a different zone and feels it is not an improvement in land use.
Supervisor Rupprecht asked if a change of use would require a site plan and curb cut approval
before the Planning Board and Commissioner Tessier said yes.
Mr. Erikson said he was already considering sharing the driveway with his business and if the
Planning Board agrees, he could do that.
Supervisor Rupprecht read the Onondaga County Planning Board’s recommendation, which
was that said referral will have no significant adverse inter-community or county-wide
implications.
Supervisor Rupprecht asked if there were any further comments or questions and there were
none. All persons wishing to be heard having been heard the hearing was closed.
Zone Change (PH)- Town Board Case # 889 - JOLU DEVELOPMENT COMPANY and JOHN G. TOOLEY and ALEXANDER J.
TOOLEY:
A public hearing to consider the application of JOLU DEVELOPMENT COMPANY and
JOHN G. TOOLEY and ALEXANDER J. TOOLEY for a change of zone from Agricultural (A-1) District to One-Family Residential (R-1) District on property located
at 5401- 5501 State Route. 31, being the northwest corner of Route 31 and the Town of
Clay/Cicero town line (Tax Map No. 051.-01-02.1) was opened by the Supervisor. Proof of
publication and posting was furnished by the Town Clerk. (Adjourned to this date and time
at the 5-3-04 Town Board Meeting.)
Robert Ventre, the attorney representing the applicant, gave a brief overview of their project.
It is a 40 acre parcel adjacent to the Town of Cicero’s boundary and they would like to
construct residential homes. The Lawton Valley Hunt Tract, a residential tract under
development, is across form this proposed project (the south side of Route 31).
Mr. Faulkner, with Clough Harbour, reviewed the possible curb cuts off Legionaire Drive and
State Route 31, and gave a brief traffic report. They feel they are not changing the level of
service at the intersection of State Route 31 and Route 11.
Councilor Palmer asked if they had taken Lawton Valley Hunt Tract into account when they
did their traffic report and Mr. Faulkner said no.
Supervisor Rupprecht read the Onondaga County Planning Board’s recommendation of
modifications, and noted that the Town Planning Board recommended approval.
Attorney Ventre said they feel this development compliments the southern side residential.
David Arnold said he thought it was the Town’s policy to fill in the southern portion of State
Route 31 before the northern side. He would like to wait, and see the Industrial Park
materialize.
Councilor Palmer noted that the Industrial Zone has been in place for 30 years with no
development yet.
Attorney Ventre stated that development is difficult on the south side of State Route 31 because
there are no sewers.
Councilor Bray commented that there is more interest by the State and the Counry with regard
to development of the Industrial Park.
Supervisor Rupprecht commented that if it does materialize he foresees Route 31 becoming
a four lane highway.
Supervisor Rupprecht asked if there were any further comments or questions and there were
none.
Motion was made by Councilor Bray to adjourn the public hearing to June 7, 2004, to
commence at 7:41 P.M. local time. Motion was seconded by Councilor Ulatowski.
Ayes-6 and Noes-0. Carried.
Zone change - Town Board Case #897 (PH) - ALLIE JORDAN, LLC:
A public hearing to consider the application of ALLIE JORDAN, LLC, for a change of zone
from One-Family Residential (R-1) District to Shopping Center (C-5) District on
property located on Brewerton Road, a portion of 3717 Brewerton Road is in the Town of
Salina, (Tax Map # 117.-11-26.0) was opened by the Supervisor. Proof of publication and
posting was furnished by the Town Clerk. (Adjourned to this date and time at the 5-3-04
Town Board Meeting.)
Tony Caruso, representing the applicant, gave a brief recap. The corner of the parcel that lies
in the Town of Clay was never zoned for the same use as the remaining portion of the parcel.
They would like this corner to be zoned a C-5 to match up with the portion in the Town of
Salina, so that they can open a nightclub. The Clay portion will be used for parking. He
explained that the Salina Town Board had voted no for their portion to be a nightclub, due to
a lack of parking. The applicant sued under an article 78 and the court said there was no reason
to deny and that denial was unlawful. Salina will have to issue a special use permit. He add that
the Town of Clay Planning Board recommended that it be zoned a C-2.
Commissioner Tessier noted that according to Salina the building capacity is 650 people.
Councilor Ulatowski asked about a buffer and Mr. Caruso said they would be putting up a 6
foot fence all around the property. Commissioner Tessier added that a 25 foot perimeter strip
is required when abutting other uses.
Homer Gere said he felt a nightclub was not compatible to the area and feels a 6 foot fence
won’t be much protection.
Supervisor Rupprecht noted that the Onondaga County Planning Board recommended
disapproval.
Several businesses and residents again voiced their concerns for their property, their safety and
their welfare should a nightclub be allowed.
Councilor Palmer said he felt that because Salina had allowed a nightclub in the past, it was
difficult for the Judge to deny their request for a special permit. He feels the Town Board
should look at the whole part of the property’s use, and feels the parcel is important to Town
of Clay residents.
Mr. Caruso concluded his presentation by saying that all these concerns were expressed to the
Salina Planning Board. The applicant feels this operation will be run differently than in the past.
They will appeal to an older crowd and the new club would probably only have 200 to 300
people on a given night.
Supervisor Rupprecht asked if there were any further comments or questions and there were
none. All persons wishing to be heard having been heard the hearing was closed.
The Supervisor called for a brief recess at 10:55 P.M. The meeting was called back to order at 11:02
P.M.
Zone Change (PH) - Town Board Case #895 - NAPOLITANO ROUTE 31
COMPANY, LLC, THOMAS T. SULLIVAN, as Executor of the Estate of Thomas C. Sullivan, JOHN K. GARDNER, BRIAN ELWELL, THOMAS P. QUINLAN, JOHN
M. QUINLAN and LEE L. BELLE:
A public hearing to consider the application of NAPOLITANO ROUTE 31 COMPANY,
LLC, THOMAS T. SULLIVAN, as Executor of the Estate of Thomas C. Sullivan, JOHN K. GARDNER, BRIAN ELWELL, THOMAS P. QUINLAN, JOHN M.
QUINLAN and LEE L. BELLE for a change of zone of property located adjacent to New
York State Route 31 from Apartment (R-4) District to Shopping Center (C-5) District of
approximately 17.93 acres; approximately 4.21 acres from Agricultural (A-1) District to
Shopping Center (C-5) District and approximately 8.67 acres from Agricultural (A-1)
District to Apartment (R-4) District, which totals 30.81± acres (being part of Tax Map
Nos. 053.-01-21.1, 053.-01-22.1, 053.-01-23.1 and all of Tax Map No. 053.-01-24.1) and to
review the DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT for said project was opened by the Supervisor. Proof of publication and posting was furnished by the Town Clerk.
(Adjourned to this date and time at the 5-3-04 Town Board Meeting.)
Joe Gerardi noted that the public hearing had been adjourned as they were waiting for the New
York State Department of Transportation’s comments and they have been received. There is
still a period for comments. They will respond to those comments in regard to the final
environmental impact statement and should be ready by the next meeting.
Supervisor Rupprecht read the comments from the New York State Department of
Transportation. Mr. Gerardi said he can address those comments and have his response ready
for the Town Board.
Supervisor Rupprecht noted that upon closing of the public hearing there is a 10 day comment
period. The last day for written comments will be June 1, 2004.
Russ Mitchell said he didn’t see why we need commercial development there. Dave Arnold said
the south side was supposed to be residential, and the school would be surrounded by C-5 and
he doesn’t understand why no one is here to protest this zone change.
Mr. Gerardi said they would endeavor to buffer the school.
Supervisor Rupprecht asked if there were any further comments or questions and there were
none. All persons wishing to be heard having been heard the hearing was closed.
Agreement (Lease)/Recreation - LIVERPOOL CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT:
Councilor Rowley moved the adoption of a resolution authorizing the Supervisor to execute
a Lease Agreement between the LIVERPOOL CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT and the TOWN OF CLAY with regard to the use of the school’s facilities for the Town’s Athletic
Sports Programs for the current school year and shall extend from June 22nd, 2004 to August
13th, 2004, at a cost of approximately $2,015.00. Motion was seconded by Councilor Palmer.
Ayes-6 and Noes-0. Carried.
Authorization - Indemnification and hold harmless agreement:
Supervisor Rupprecht moved the adoption of a resolution authorizing the Supervisor to
execute an indemnification and hold harmless agreement between the Town of Clay and
QPK. Motion was seconded by Councilor Bray.
Ayes-6 and Noes-0. Carried.
Bid - DEMOLITION OF THE CIBRO SITE ASPHALT STORAGE TANKS AT THREE
RIVERS:
Councilor Bray moved the adoption of a resolution authorizing the advertisement of bids for
THE DEMOLITION OF THE CIBRO SITE ASPHALT STORAGE TANKS AT THREE RIVERS. Said Bids to be received until June 1st, 2004, at 11:00 A.M. Motion
was seconded by Councilor Rowley. (This resolution was made to correct bid opening date,
due to holiday closure.)
Ayes-6 and Noes-0. Carried.
Adjournment:
The meeting was adjourned at 11:25 P.M. upon motion by Councilor Bray and seconded by
Councilor Rowley. Ayes-6 and Noes-0. Carried.
Archived Minutes
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