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ZONING BOARD OF
APPEALS
APPROVED
MINUTES OF MEETING
October
8, 2007
The regular meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga, State
of New York was held at the Town Hall of Clay, New York on October 8, 2007.
Chairman Fennhahn called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. and upon the roll being called the
following were:
PRESENT: Arthur Fennhahn Chairman
Charles V. Mangan Deputy Chairman
Eugene Young Member
Karen Liebi Member
David Hess Member
Vivian I. Mason Secretary
Mark Grobosky Attorney
Cindy Heid Assistant Commissioner of Planning
MOTION made by Deputy Chairman Mangan that the Minutes of the meeting of September 10, 2007
be accepted. Motion was seconded by Mrs. Liebi. Unanimously carried.
MOTION made by Chairman Fennhahn that for the purpose of the New York State Environmental
Quality Review (SEQR) all new actions tonight will be determined to be Type II actions, and will be
given a negative declaration, unless otherwise advised by our attorney. Motion was seconded by Deputy
Chairman Mangan. Unanimously carried.
OLD BUSINESS:
Case #1268 - VARIANCE - Roger L. Burdick, 5500 East Taft Road (Tax map #118-02-02.2):
The applicant is requesting a variance to decrease lot area from the Highway Overlay Zone District lot
area minimum of 381,150 to 289,065 square feet for the purpose of a subdivision and zone change, also
selling part of a parcel to North Syracuse Central School District.
(Standards of Proof were given at the August 13, 2007 meeting)
Chairman Fennhahn announced that the applicant has withdrawn their application.
Case #1273 - VARIANCE - Dave Charron, 5332 New York State Route 31 (Tax map #051.-01-10.2 & 051.-01-11.0):
The applicant is seeking a variance to decrease the lot area (with access) from 160,000 square feet to
130,731 square feet to decrease the allowable front yard minimum accessory setback from 115 feet to
51 feet, to decrease the allowable side yard minimum accessory structure, detached, from 50 feet to 20
feet on the western property line for the purpose of turning an existing house into office and retail
space, existing barn and garage for equipment storage, and adding outdoor retail display area for the sale
of plant material and landscaping accessories.
(Standards of Proof were given at the September 10, 2007 meeting)
Chairman Fennhahn explained that Mr Charron has an application for a zone change before the
Town Board that is under consideration and parts or all of these variance requests may be
withdrawn. This hearing is being adjourned until Town Board action is taken.
NEW BUSINESS
Chairman Fennhahn asked the Board Members if they had visited the sites and all answered in
the affirmative.
Case #1276 - Special Permit - Laurentiu (Larry) Fratostitanu, 4931 Ernest Way (Tax
map #077-27-16.0:
The applicant is seeking a special permit for the purpose of operating a home occupation of
selling gifts (d.b.a. Studio Gift).
The public hearing notice was read by the secretary.
Mr. Fratostitanu explained that he has to work from the house. It was discovered that he had
a home business when there was a problem with Syracuse Haulers regarding the cardboard he
was putting out. It wasn’t being flattened, cut up and tied as required. As a result of this
problem the Town became aware of his home business venture of selling rose petals for
weddings etc.
His sales are via the internet. There is no customer business at the home. All business is via a
post office box and all incoming and outgoing UPS business is once a day. There is no sign on
the house as everything is mail order and sent out from the house so there is no negligible
impact on the neighborhood.
Chairman Fennhahn asked where his business is located in the house and Mr. Fratostitanu said
in the basement, with his stock stored in the garage.
Deputy Chairman Mangan asked Mr. Fratostitanu how big his basement was and he said 800
to 1,000 square feet.
Mr. Young asked if any customers come to the house and Mr. Fratostitanu said no.
Assistant Commissioner Heid noted that an in home occupation can’t use more than 25% of
the first floor of the home or an accumulative of 500 square feet, whichever is less. Mr.
Fratostitanu said that the basement is also used for other things and he is using less than 500
square feet.
Mr. Young told Mr. Fratostitanu that he needs to give the Board a different diagram. Chairman
Fennhahn added that Mr. Fratostitanu needs to rough out a diagram of the cellar and calculate
the part used for the business.
Mr. Daugnault wanted to know if Mr. Fratostitanu could have walk up business. Chairman
Fennhahn said he didn’t know if the Board could set limits.
Joyce Cirritto said there was nothing in the Town ordinance regarding home business and Ms.
Heid said that it is in the ordinance. Attorney Grabosky further explained that it is in the
definitions section. Ms. Cirritto said she didn’t want the neighborhood impacted with an in
home business.
Chairman Fennhahn asked if there were any further comments or questions and there were
none. Chairman Fennhahn asked for those opposed to granting the Special Permit and there
were none. Chairman Fennhahn asked for those opposed to granting the Special Permit and
Mr. Daignault said he was concerned about business being conducted out of a home.
Chairman Fennhahn said there were some aspects concerning in home businesses the Board
needs to review.
Chairman Fennhahn adjourned the case to November 12, 2007.
Case #1277 - SPECIAL PERMIT - Michael Mastrogiavanni, 7640 Commander Circle
(Tax Map #085.-12-12.0):
The applicant is seeking a special permit for the purpose of operating a home occupation of
selling fire arms (d.b.a SPUR Shooters Supply).
The public hearing notice was read by the secretary.
Michael Mastrogiavanni presented a packet of letters from neighbors and residents voicing no
objections to his established gun business. Mr. Mastrogiavanni explained that in 1992 he
applied for and received both a Federal Firearms and New York State License to buy and sell
firearms. In 1995 the renewal form for his business there was a question asking if the firearms
business was prohibited by zoning in his municipality. He contacted Mr. Keeler, who was the
Commissioner of Planning and Development at the time and he issued a letter stating Mr.
Mastrogiavanni’s property was in compliance with the Town of Clay ordinance. Former
Commissioner George Keeler never put the name of Mr. Mastrogiavanni’s business on the letter
and last year the ATF agent came to inspect Mr. Mastrogiavanni’s books and told him the letter
was not sufficient for a renewal.
Mr. Mastrogiavanni added that he has a security system and stores the guns in three 500 pound
safes. He has no signage and uses the Internet, word of mouth and gun shows to get
customers. He can goes weeks between sales and then might transfer three guns in a week. A
large part of his business in on the Internet. He has transferred fifty to sixty guns in the last two
years. He does a background check through a system run by the FBI. He ships any firearms
by traveling to the post office or to UPS. There is no common carrier pickup at his house. Mr.
Mastrogiavanni concluded by assuring the Board that he runs a quiet business, some of his
neighbors didn’t even know about his business, and his business does not disrupt the
neighborhood.
Chairman Fennhahn asked Mr. Mastrogiavanni how he would go about doing business. Mr.
Mastrogiavanni said that he goes to sportsman’s club’s and someone will ask him if he can get
a particular gun and ask him how much it will cost and when the gun comes in Mr.
Mastrogiavanni will call that person up and that person will come over to the house and pick
up the gun.
Mr. Young asked Mr. Mastrogiavanni how many customers show up at his house and he said
50-60 in the past few years.
Mr. Young asked if he kept an inventory of guns. Mr. Mastrogiavanni said not many. He
further stated that he had purchased the inventory of a local gun dealer who had recently died.
Mr. Mastrogiavanni read the letter from former Commissioner Keeler. Attorney Grobosky
stated that a municipality is not bound by the decision made by an employee which was made
erroneously.
Russ Mitchell asked Mr. Mastrogiavanni if he sold ammunition and he said no and doesn’t want
to.
Joyce Cirritto asked how the Town can be sure anyone in this type of business is reliable and
legitimate. Chairman Fennhahn commented that anyone else in this type of business would
need to apply to the Town for a permit.
Mr. Mastrogiavanni said he has to be licensed by the the Federal Firearms and New York State,
and the only ones that can look at his books are the ATF and the FBI.
Mike Banks, with the Bayberry Community Association, said their concern is traffic, but that
didn’t seem to be an issue in this case, but they worry about the spreading of businesses and
the setting of precedence. Chairman Fennhahn assured him that there is no precedence, each
case is evaluated by itself.
A resident voiced concerns about the future, with more people coming in for home businesses.
Chairman Fennhahn said the public needs to let the Town know about people doing business
out of their homes. Assistant Commissioner Heid said that the person would need to sign an
affidavit, but their names would not be given out unless it went to court.
Chairman Fennhahn asked if there were any further comments or questions and there were
none. Chairman Fennhahn asked for those in favor of granting the Special Permit and Russ
Mitchell spoke highly of Mr. Mastrogiavanni and said he would be comfortable with him in his
own neighborhood. Mr. Dombroski, a neighbor, also was in favor of granting the Special
Permit. Chairman Fennhahn asked for those opposed to granting the Special Permit and Helen
Eckles said she didn’t wants shops opening up in a residential neighborhood.
Chairman Fennhahn said the Board need to review the ordinance with regard to home
businesses.
Chairman Fennhahn adjourned the case to November 12, 2007.
There being no further business, Chairman Fennhahn adjourned the meeting at 8:42 P.M.
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Vivian I. Mason, Secretary
Zoning Board of Appeals
Town of Clay
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