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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
July 22, 2009
The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at Town Hall located at 4401 State Route 31, Clay, New York on the 22nd day of July, 2009. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lepkowski at 7:30 PM and upon roll being called, the following were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski Chairman
John Dougherty Deputy Chairman
Karen Guinup Member
Hal Henty Member
Allen Kovac Member
James Sharpe Member
Russ Mitchell Member
Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney
David Balcer Town Planner
Mark Territo Commissioner of Planning &
Development
Gloria Wetmore Planning Board Secretary
Minutes of Previous Meeting
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by James Sharpe to approve the minutes of the previous meeting.
Motion Passed 7-0
Public Hearings
2009-6-3 Baldini & Isabella Realty Assoc., LLC, Site Plan -7960 Oswego Road
Chairman Lepkowski opened the public hearing, Julian Clark of Plumley Engineering, present for the applicant, passed out updated maps to the Board. Mr. Clark explained the project. The applicants would like to build a new office building 6500 sf, and demo the existing house and garage. 13 parking spaces and 3 handicap spaces. They will have on site storm water management. Mr. Clark explained they obtained two side yard variances from the Zoning Board of Appeals back in June of this year to allow them to build on the narrow piece of property. Changes were made as recommended by the Fire Marshal, reflected on the updated plan. First a sidewalk leading to the second door of the building,
Secondly to locate the fire hydrant on the plan, also to widen the existing driveway to accommodate fire trucks.
Hal Henty asked for the distance away from the residential, Mr. Clark said its 17 feet on the north, and 19 feet on the south side. Hal Henty said he would like to see stockade fencing along the north side facing residential.
The Onondaga County Planning Board commented the applicant consider putting the parking out back, however that wont work for a few reasons, one is that would take away from the 140ft set back needed from the center line of the road. Secondly the lights would shine on the residential.
Chairman Lepkowski asked again about the fence, he asked the Board if they thought there should be a fence. The consensus was they did not. The ZBA approved additional plantings in the buffer.
Russ Mitchell commented that if a contractor were to take some trees down along the residential area to the north, the applicant would have to increase plantings to add to the buffer.
Chairman Lepkowski asked the applicant for a more distributed lighting plan, he suggested shorter poles with lower watt bulbs.
Karen Guinup asked the applicant if they were going to put in a dumpster, and dumpster enclosure. The applicant said they didnt need a dumpster. Karen explained the possibility that down the road if the property is sold or leased to someone, there may be a need for a dumpster at that time and she would like to see a dumpster and dumpster enclosure added to the plan.
David Balcer Town Planner suggested if it is determined a dumpster is needed in the future, an amended site plan is needed.
Karen Guinup would also like to see additional plantings on the north side to shield residential. She also asked about ingress and egress, and about the sign.
The applicant said it is a monument sign lit with spots, he plans on keeping the existing sign at the same location.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any more comments or questions.
There were none.
A motion was made by John Dougherty seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn this Public Hearing to August 12, 2009.
Motion Passed 7-0
Old Business: Adjourned Hearings
2007-12-3 Group One Development, LLC. Site Plan Corner of Route 31 & Henry Clay Blvd.
Alex Wisniewski of LJR Engineering and John Russo were Present. Mr. Wisniewski
began by explaining the project, zoned RC-1 they will build four (4) 12,000 sq foot retail buildings with access from Henry Clay Blvd, and State Rt. 31, across from Sherwood Circle. There will be 210 parking spaces, and the drainage design as per SPEDES specs.
There was a joint traffic study done with Nice-N-Easy, and the State DOT approved a right in/right out only on to State Route 31, and left turn access into the property will be addressed at such time when capital improvements are made to the highway. The County DOT approved the full access drive onto Henry Clay Blvd.
Alex Wisniewski then spoke about the buffer along the residentially zoned portion. Hal Henty commented on the lack of trees on the proposed plan for the buffer.
Alex Wisniewski said they could stagger the maple trees and add conifers to fill in.
They are working with Nice-N-Easy to have a joint sewer plan.
The Fire Marshal comments were addressed, the turning radii through the site for fire trucks, the study done should be acceptable.
Hal Romans of Ianuzi and Romans presented a concept plan to the Board. This plan was used in the traffic study, the buildings will have architectural shingles for the roofs and the buildings will be hardy board plank all the way around, and the dumpster enclosures will match.
David Balcer commented that a side yard setback noted on the plan might actually be a front yard set back for the corner parcel. Alex said he would like an interpretation from the Attorney or the Planning Department. Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney said in order to consider the out parcel a corner lot it would have to have an interior angle of 132°, he said it has to have a ruling from Planning & Development Department.
Chairman Lepkowski asked about an inter connection to the property on the east side, so if it gets developed residential or commercially they would like a connection.
James Sharpe asked if they would have to decide now about the connecting road and the Chairman said they would want to build a culvert before they complete the project.
Chairman Lepkowski instructed the applicant to add cross easements, for a future connecting road on the plan. If a restaurant goes into any building the parking will have to be adjusted.
Karen Guinup would like to see the buffers beefed up, and the dumpster enclosures.
She pointed out the dumpsters on the plan, the ones in the corners are surrounded by trees but the one in the center will have no buffer.
John Dougherty asked if they could turn the dumpster, Hal Romans said they could push the dumpster all way to the back of the building.
The Chairman asked if the Onondaga County Planning Board had to take another look at this and Mark Territo said no.
Scott Chatfield Asked where they are with the traffic study from April 2009, the comments differentiated between Nice-N-Easy and Group One.
The Chairman asked for a copy of the letter of June 9th, 2009 and the current letter.
A motion was made by Russ Mitchell seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn this Public Hearing to August 12, 2009.
Motion Passed 7-0
2008-6-1 Clay South Development Co., LLC, Amended Site Plan South side NYS Route 31 (Lowes outparcel)
The applicant asked for an adjournment to the August 12th, 2009 meeting. Hal Henty moved the adoption of a resolution adjourning this public hearing to August 12th, 2009, seconded by James Sharpe.
Motion Passed 7-0
2009-4-3 Self Storage Buckley LLC, Site Plan - 7500 & 7502 Buckley Road
The applicant asked for an adjournment to the August 12th, 2009 meeting. Allen Kovac moved the adoption of a resolution to adjourn the public hearing to August 12th, 2009, seconded by John Dougherty.
Motion Passed 7-0
2009-5-1 Time Warner Cable, Amended Site Plan - 7890 Davis Road
Chairman Lepkowski opened the public hearing, David Balcer, Town Planner presented the Amended Site Plan to the Board showing the location of the fire hydrant.
Chairman Lepkowski closed the public hearing.
A motion was made by Russ Mitchell, seconded by James Sharpe to adopt a resolution using standard form #10, that the SEQR determination for case # 2009-5-1 Time Warner Cable, located at 7890 Davis Road be declared a negative declaration as this appears to have no environmental impact which can not be mitigated and does not involve any other permit granting agencies including the Federal Government.
Motion Passed 7-0
A motion was made by Russ Mitchell, seconded by James Sharpe to adopt a resolution using standard form #20 granting Site Plan approval for case #2009-5-1 Time Warner Cable, located at 7890 Davis Road, based on a map by Ianuzi & Romans dated June 1, 2009 file # 2502.002, and amended drawings # A-101 dated June 10, 2009, and # A-201 dated June 10, 2009, and # S-101 dated June 10, 2009.
Motion Passed 7-0
2009-5-2 Empire Bldg. Products/Reserve Supply, Special Permit - 7707 Henry Clay Blvd.
The applicant requested an adjournment to a September meeting date. A motion was made by Hal Henty seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn the Public Hearing to September 23, 2009.
Motion Passed 7-0
2009-5-3 ABC Estates, A New York Partnership, Amended Site Plan- 7272 Henry Clay Blvd.
Chairman Lepkowski Opened the Public Hearing, Brian Bouchard of CHA, was present for the applicant. Mr. Bouchard presented the amended Site Plan, the applicant would like to put in 32 one bedroom units. They reduced the garage form 20 to 10 car stalls with 77 total parking spaces.
The applicant will remove the cupola, to lower the building height from 44 to 39 in the middle section.
Hal Henty asked about the variance obtained from the ZBA. Mr. Bouchard said they were granted a variance for a side yard set back, there are no height limits in this zone, however for every foot over 35 they have to add one foot to the side yard set back.
Chairman Lepkowski asked to have all variances granted shown on the plan, as well as the variance number and set back allowed, and 32-1 bedroom units density approved.
A motion was made by Hal Henty seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn this Public Hearing to August 12, 2009.
Motion Passed 7-0
2009-6-1 Oneida Financial Corp., Site Plan 5232 Witz Drive
The applicant asked for an adjournment to the August 12th, 2009 meeting. A motion was made by Hal Henty seconded by James Sharpe to adjourn the Public Hearing to August 12th, 2009.
Motion Passed7-0
Old Business: Hearings Closed
NONE
New Business: Signs
Cutting Crew (former Cost Cutter) 3873 Rte. 31
Zoned RC-1 permit #41,247
Wall sign Allowed two per tenant space, 8% of tenant space (16w x 22ht = 352 s.f.) Total Allowed 28.16
sf. Proposed (boxed) 20.43 sf.
A motion was made by John Dougherty seconded by James Sharpe to approve this sign as presented.
Motion Passed 7-0
Nice N Easy Route 31
Zoned RC-1 (5 acres or greater & 2 entrances) permit #41,292
Freestanding signs Allowed one/entrance, 25 setback, max. 25ht and max 128 sf. area.
Proposed Sign A Height 22-5.5, 25 setback and 120.32 sf. Option #2 on the Route 31 side [this option was approved].
Sign B Height 15, 25 setback and 52.19 sf. on the Henry Clay side.
Wall signs Allowed two/building 8% of the wall area mounted on.
Route 31 side allowed 73.0 sf, proposed 59.31 sf
Henry Clay side allowed 46.8 sf, proposed 59.31 sf; the Planning Board approved this to 46.8 sf maximum.
Private traffic sign Allowed as minor sign, should not exceed 4 sf. but may be adjusted by
P.B. to enhance sign, site conditions and/or the activity of the internal user. Proposed two per entrance, one exit and one exit. 5.6sf ea.
Option 2 with no logo was approved with 25set back and reduced to 4.0sf ea.
No building permit will be issued until the sign co. resubmits drawings to show changes by the Planning Board.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup seconded by Hal Henty to approve the signs with changes.
Motion Passed 7-0
ADJOURN MEETING
A motion was made by Russ Mitchell, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn the meeting at 10:00 PM.
Motion Passed 7-0
Respectfully Submitted
Gloria Wetmore
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