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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
May 28, 2008
The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at the Town Hall located at 4401 Route 31, Clay, New York on the 28th day of May, 2008. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lepkowski at 7:30 PM and upon roll being called, the following were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski Chairman
Karen Guinup Member
Allen Kovac Member
John Dougherty Member
Hal Henty Member
Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney
Ron DeTota C&S Engineers
Mark Territo Commissioner of Planning and
Development
Jill Hageman-Clark Planning Board Secretary
ABSENT: Bruce Johnson Deputy Chairman
James Sharpe Member
David Balcer Town Planner
Minutes of Previous Meeting
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by John Dougherty to approve the minutes of the previous meeting.
Motion Passed 5-0
2008-4-6 Michael P. Bell (3) Preliminary Plat, 10224 Caughdenoy Rd.
Michael Bell, applicant and Hal Romans, surveyor for the applicant were present.
The applicant is proposing a subdivision of 3 lots located on 94 acres. Lot 5 would be part of lot 7. There was a discussion about the access to Caughdenoy Road from lot 7. The applicant stated that lot 7 would gain access through the ingress/ egress easement across lot 5. The applicant further indicated that he had no plans to develop any more than shown on the map. Mr. Chatfield suggested that if the applicant were to make the easement 60 wide. It could be considered a road therefore satisfying the need for road frontage even though the road would not be a public road. The applicant agreed to make the easement 60 wide instead of the 30, as originally shown on the plan.
Mr. Dougherty asked if the Board would grant approval pending the change of the ingress /egress easement across lot 5 to lot 7 from 30 to 60. The Chairman said that he would like to see the map showing the changes. He asked if there were any questions and there were none. He said that he would leave the Public Hearing open.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Karen Guinup to adjourn to June 11, 2008.
Motion Passed 5-0
2008-5-2 Taft Allen, LLC (3) Site Plan, 5219-5225 Taft Road
Hal Romans, Ralph DiTucci and Brian Burri of Bergman and Associates were present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing a 9,600 square foot Kinney Drugstore on the north east side of Allen and Taft Roads. Previously the New York State Department of Transportation recommended that the applicant have limited access however, they have agreed to allow full access from Allen Road. The applicant stated that the dumpster will be located to the rear of the parcel to the north. They explained that the area would drain in different directions and that landscaping would be added to the front on Taft Road as well as the front on Allen Road.
Mr. Henty asked about the direction of cars after exiting the drive thru. The applicant explained that the cars could either exit onto Allen Road or continue around to exit onto Taft Road by the access road shared with Auto Zone. The Chairman inquired about not using the access to the south through the Auto Zone property.
Paul Linnertz of the North Syracuse Fire Department expressed his concern with the access for the emergency vehicles. He further stated that the hydrants were inaccessible making it difficult to get water onto the site. Mr. Romans said that he could remove the island. Mr. Linnertz said that if the one-way to Auto Zone were removed it would make it difficult for the fire department to gain access to the building and the fire hydrants.
There was a lengthy discussion about the location of the hydrants and the possibility of adding one. The applicant did state that the building will be sprinkled. Mr. Romans suggested that with the expense of the hydrant perhaps OCWA will take over ownership of it. Mr. Linnertz did say that he would work with the architect. Mr. DeTota stated that there will need to be some grading to the adjoining property to the north for drainage. He further recommended that the applicant verify that the catch basin shown on West Taft Road at the existing entrance. He also indicated that the analysis should be extended to show that the properties to the N/E and the S/E would not be adversely affected by the overland stormwater runoff.
Mr. Romans stated that the resubdivision into a single parcel will be handled administratively by the Commissioner of Planning and Development.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn until June 11, 2008.
Motion Passed 5-0
Public Hearing to review the 2007 Annual Report for the Town of Clay Stormwater
Management Program (SWMP) as part of the Phase II Stormwater Regulations as
promulgated by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
Ron DeTota presented a brief overview of the fifth year of Phase II. Mr. DeTota stated that the Town has adopted the Local Laws. These Local Laws address construction and post construction activities in addition to addressing the improvement of water quality.
Mr. DeTota stated that this was a Public Hearing and asked if there were any questions, there were none.
Old Business: Adjourned Hearings
2007-4-1 Prime Management, Attn: Dean DeVito (3) Site Plan, located between Route 31 and Mendenhall Drive on the northeast side of Oswego Rd. (Rte 57) (Adjourned from 9 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn until June 11, 2008.
Motion Passed 5-0
2007-4-4 John E. Davis/Davis Ventures LLC, Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to HC-1, 5064, 5154 & 5170 State Route 31 (Adjourned from 7 previous meetings)
2007-4-6 Richard J. Alt & Donald W. Alt, Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to HC-1, 5236 & Vacant Land, State Route 31 (Adjourned from 7 previous meetings)
Hal Romans was present for the applicants.
Mr. Romans stated that they had met with the New York State Department of Transportation and will have a revised letter. Mr. Romans asked for this hearing to be adjourned until the first meeting in July.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Karen Guinup to adjourn both cases until July 9, 2008.
Motion Passed 5-0
2007-10-12 Clay Park, LLC, Zone Change Recommendation, RA-100 to HC-1 & R-Apt NYS Route 31 & Caughdenoy Road (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
Hal Romans was present for the applicant.
Mr. Romans said that they wished to modify the Zone Change application and that the applicant would re-advertise. He said that they would provide a traffic study early next month.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn until July 9, 2008.
Motion Passed 5-0
2008-3-1 Ticada Realty, LLC (3), Site Plan, 5496 East Taft Road (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
The applicant stated that they had met with Ron DeTota. They have revised the detention areas and will continue to work with Mr. DeTota as they progress through this project. They have deleted the bio-retention area and will be providing landscaping and an inline treatment that will remove the sediment generated from the site.
The Onondaga County Planning Board recommended that the applicant show the dumpster on the Site Plan. They should also show the wetlands delineation and verification of waste water system.
Mr. DeTota stated that he had met with the applicant and that this would require regular maintenance furthermore that the Town would need to provide regular inspections to make sure that the treatment measure is functioning as designed.
Mr. DeTota told the applicant that his recommendation to the Town will be that an agreement be generated by the Applicant setting forth the maintenance requirements of the proprietary erosion and sediment control component and that monies must be posted on a five year interval to reimburse the Town for inspection costs that are incurred as part of the maintenance program. The Applicant acknowledged Mr. DeTotas statement and stated that they were in agreement with that approach.
The Chairman reminded that this is an open Public Hearing and asked if there were any questions. Hearing none he closed the Public Hearing.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Hal Henty using standard form #10 that the Site Plan proposed by Ticada Reality, LLC be declared a Negative declaration.
Motion Passed 5-0
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by Allen Kovac using standard form #20 granting Site Plan approval to Ticada Reality for the property located at 5496 East Taft Road based on a map by Maxian & Horst dated 5/28/2008; no revisions. Subject to the following conditions;
1. All legal and engineering approvals.
2. A maintenance agreement be in place and accepted by the Town for the proposed on site erosion and sediment control measures prior to the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy.
Motion Passed 5-0
2008-4-2 David Essig (3), Amended Site Plan, 3451 Route 31 (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
Hal Romans was present for the applicant.
Mr. Romans stated that he would bring the updated Site Plan to the next meeting.
The Chairman pointed out that the applicant has installed new lighting, Mr. Henty agreed. Ms. Guinup asked about the landscaping and the dumpsters that are currently out in the open. Mr. Romans said that he would make sure that this was taken care of. Mr. Romans asked for an adjournment to June 11, 2008.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Hal Henty to adjourn this Public Hearing to June 11, 2008.
Motion Passed 5-0
2008-4-4 West Taft Road Associates (3), Site Plan 4820 West Taft Road (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
The applicant has been working with Ron DeTota and wishes to update the Planning Board on the progress.
The parking lot is o.k., there will not be a structure located on the property and the temporary one will be eliminated.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that he could not grant Site Plan approval until Mr. DeTota was satisfied. Mr. DeTota said that it looks better but there are still concerns to be addressed.
The Chairman said that he would leave the Public Hearing open.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn to June 11, 2008.
Motion Passed 5-0
Old Business: Hearings Closed
2008-3-3 Joseph S. Janowski, Zone Change Recommendation, RA-100 to RC-1
7917 Oswego Road (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
Hal Romans was present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing a zone change for the 58 acres located on the west side of Oswego Road. Hal Romans stated that the applicant has conducted a traffic study and that it was provided to the Board last week. He stated that the study was conducted using a retail zone, which would be the greatest use that would create a 4 second delay. In addition the applicant provided a covenant for the flood area in the rear of the parcel. Mr. Henty asked if the applicant needs a variance. Mr. Romans responded that they do not.
A motion was made by Hal Henty seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn to June 11, 2008.
Motion Passed 5-0.
Woodside Developers, Inc., Woodside Runne, PDD Project Plan Review
The applicant sent a letter to the Planning Board indicating their desire to put this project on hold until they consider further options.
New Business: Signs
Calvery Chapel # 40060
The applicant has reduced the size of the sign to 24 square feet. Walter Lepkowski reminded that the letters must be 12. The Chairman suggested that the Board may submit to the Town Board a Recommendation to remove the 12 letter height requirement. Ms. Guinup and Mr. Henty indicated that they were in favor of the height requirement adding that the sign is not a menu and that the drivers need not be distracted by a lot of content to the signs. Mr. Kovac and Mr. Dougherty agreed with the Chairman that the letters need not meet the size requirement for the safety of the drivers therefore not necessitating a 12 letter minimum requirement.
The applicant will return to the next meeting.
Nails #40102
The applicant has met the requirements of the town by making the sign 16 square feet and the letters 8 in height.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Karen Guinup to approve this sign.
Motion Passed 5-0
ADJOURN MEETING
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn this Public Hearing.
Motion Passed 7-0
Meeting adjourned at 10:05 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jill Hageman-Clark
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