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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
February 13, 2008
The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at the Town Hall located at 4401 Route 31, Clay, New York on the 13th day of February, 2008. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lepkowski at 7:30 PM and upon roll being called, the following were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski Chairman
Bruce Johnson Deputy Chairman
Karen Guinup
Member
James Sharpe Member
Allen Kovac
Member
John Dougherty Member
Hal Henty
Member
Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney
Ron DeTota
C&S Engineers
David Balcer
Town Planner
Mark Territo
Commissioner of Planning and
Development
Jill Hageman-Clark Planning Board Secretary
Minutes of Previous Meeting
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by Karen Guinup to approve the minutes of the previous meeting.
Motion Passed 7-0
Public Hearings:
2007-11-5 Route 31 Holding Co., LLC (3) Preliminary Plat – on Route 31 & Stearns Road
Hal Romans was present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing a 3-lot subdivision of 2 tax parcels. Lot 1B (10 acres) would be owned by Animal Kingdom. The remaining two lots would be conforming; the future road would split lot 1A.
Ms. Guinup asked if Stearns Road was a town or county road. Mr. Romans said that it was a town road. There was a discussion about closing the road or using it to allow access to Route 31. Mr. Romans said that he would contact Mr. Brainer at the Department of Transportation; he further commented that the applicant would keep the access to Route 31 until the future road was built. Mr. Romans added that the driveway for Animal Kingdom onto Stearns Road would disappear after the road is built.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any questions, and there were none.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn this Public Hearing until February 27, 2008.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-12-2 Taft Allen LLC, Special Permit Advisory Referral – 5219 & 5225 Taft Road
Hal Romans was present for the applicant.
The applicant is requesting a special permit for a prescription pick-up drive-thru at the proposed pharmacy to be located at the corner of Allen and Taft Roads. The applicant is proposing right in and right out onto Allen Road as suggested by the County Department of Transportation.
Mr. Romans stated that the original plan did not allow for adequate turning radius for private vehicles. The revised Site Plan allows for an exit, no entrance allowing more space for turning. Mr. Stelter, from the County D.O.T. was accepting of the plan as presented. Mr. Henty asked if the applicant would be adding signage. Mr. Romans stated that the signage would reduce the space for movement. There was a discussion about how much stacking could be accommodated. Mr. Henty asked if there were sufficient parking spaces. Mr. Romans indicated that there are. Mr. Balcer concurred adding that there are 105 spaces shown in the plan. Chairman Lepkowski asked about the dumpster and landscaping. Mr. Romans said that a landscaping plan would be prepared as part of the project, and that the dumpster is located at the corner of the lot.
The Chairman reminded that this was a Public Hearing and asked if there were any questions from the audience, hearing none he closed the Public Hearing.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by James Sharpe, recommending to the Town Board that a Special Permit be approved for the applicant, based upon the applicant allowing as much stacking room as possible, taking into consideration the layout of the store.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-12-3 Group One Development, LLC (3) Site Plan – Corner of Route 31 & Henry Clay Blvd.
John Russo of Group One Development, LCC, Alex Wisniewski of LJR Engineering, P.C. and Gordon Stansberry were present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing retail development for the 14.9-acre parcel. The land is zoned RC-1 (Regional / Commercial). Currently water and gas facilities exist to serve this property.
There was a discussion about the storm water that would collect at the southeast corner of the parcel. There is currently no public sewer. In addition the applicant will have an entrance on Henry Clay Boulevard and is seeking two entrances on Route 31. The entrance furthest to the east would be directly across from Sherwood Circle.
The applicant stated that there would be 1100 feet of frontage. He is proposing four out parcels, the back to be built first with the remaining buildings to be completed in phase two after the tenants have been secured. The remaining front parcels will require Site Plan approval. Ms. Guinup asked if the tenants would own the parcels or if the applicant would retain ownership. The applicant stated that they would retain ownership.
Chairman Lepkowski said that he would like to see this shopping area to be pedestrian friendly. In addition he felt that it could be more interesting, less flat. Mr. Johnson added that all four buildings are the same. Perhaps it could be L-shaped on the ends to make it more visually pleasing. Mr. Johnson also was concerned with the two entrances onto Route 31. Chairman Lepkowski asked why the applicant wants to develop the parcels to the rear before the front parcels. The applicant said that they would like to hold out for the major retailers for the front lots. Mr. Henty asked what would happen if the applicant were denied two entrances onto Route 31. He responded that he might be restricted but that he would still proceed. Chairman Lepkowski explained that the board could disapprove the entrances even if the County Department of Transportation approved. The applicant said that the traffic study performed by Gordon Stansberry was done
The Chairman stated that this was an open Public Hearing and asked if there were any questions. Jim Mills, a property owner across Route 31 raised his concerns regarding the stormwater retention and his doubt as to whether it is large enough to accommodate it. Mr. DeTota said that he would review this.
A motion was made by Mr. Henty, seconded by Karen Guinup to adjourn this Public Hearing until March 26, 2008.
Motion Passed 7-0
Old Business: Adjourned Hearings
2007-4-1 Prime Management, Attn: Dean DeVito (3) Site Plan, located between Route 31 and Mendenhall Drive on the northeast side of Oswego Rd. (Rte 57) (Adjourned from 7 previous meetings
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by James Sharpe, to adjourn this Public Hearing until March 12, 2008.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-8-1 Suburban Square I.N.C / Salvatore Casale (3) – Site Plan, 7990 Oswego Road (Adjourned from 5 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Allen Kovac, to adjourn this Public Hearing until April 9, 2008.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-11-2 Self Storage Buckley LLC, Zone Change Recommendation I-2 to HC-1 & I-2 to R-10 & R-10 to HC-1, 7500 & 7502 Buckley Road (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by James Sharpe, to adjourn this Public Hearing until March 12, 2008.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-12-1 Eldan Homes, Inc. (3) Preliminary Plat – Verplank Road (1 lot into 3 lots) (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by James Sharpe, seconded by John Dougherty, to adjourn this Public Hearing until March 12, 2008.
Motion Passed 7-0
Old Business: Hearings Closed
NONE
New Business:
Route 31 Plaza (Site Plan) West of Saturn Dealership, Rocklyn Development
Peter Chrissey was present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing to build a retail strip building on Route 31 west of the Sam Dell building. A site plan and several variances had been approved for the owner and the previous developer, COR for this parcel.
The applicant stated that the tenants would include, Dunn Tire, Metro Mattress and AT&T.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding the validity of the variances that had been granted to COR, not because the change of ownership, but because of the change of site plan. The new developer does not have permission for use of the driveway; the different owners will affect side yard setbacks. The physical size of the building is larger than that approved in the previously approved Site Plan. In addition the applicant will need approval from the Town Board for Motor Vehicle Service (Dunn Tire). There are still drainage issues that will need to be addressed. There are many changes to the proposed new plan. There was a discussion about whether the applicant will need to appear before the ZBA. It was decided that the Commissioner of Planning and Development would decide this.
There was a discussion about the approved plan and it was suggested that if the applicant were to build in accordance to the approved plan that there would not be much that he would need to obtain from the Planning Board to go forth with this project. Mr. DeTota stated that the previously approved Site Plan had its storm water runoff directed to the existing COR Shopping Center detention basin. Due to the change in ownership of this pending Site Plan that luxury does no exist. The applicant would have to provide an onsite storm water management facility to comply with the Town’s Local Law.
The applicant is also proposing right in, right out access from Route 31.
Meeting closed pending Commissioner’s response.
Work Session:
Woodside Developers, Inc. Woodside Runne, PDD Concept Plan Discussion
Hal Romans, Michael Bragman Jr. and Linda Miller were present for the applicant.
Mr. Romans said that he applicant is proposing 80 residential lots. The front should be 25 feet. Troy Miller will build the lots to the east. Mr. Henty asked who would build the remaining residential lots. Mr. Romans said that perhaps Somerset Homes. Mr. Henty asked about the difference in cost. There was a discussion about the different builders, lot size and how they will fit in together.
The commercial development was discussed briefly. Ms Guinup said that she would not like to see ‘cookie cutter buildings’. The applicant assured her that this would not be the case. They discussed landscaping and the use of Aspen Pines or Blue Spruce. The chairman said that he would like to see the green space expanded allowing for drainage (perhaps a pond). Mr. Johnson added that a fountain or a gazebo might be nice. Mr. Romans stated that they might need the area along the back for drainage.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that the Town Board wishes to be the lead agency and they would like a recommendation on a SEQR. The Chairman asked Mr. DeTota if he had seen the traffic study. Mr. DeTota said that he had not. He also said that he would like to see the environmental study. Mr. Bragman said that the Department of Environmental Conservation has a full report.
There was also a discussion about stormwater drainage. Mr. Chatfield mentioned the issue of the hazardous waste. There was a lengthy discussion regarding this. The Chairman said that he was not an expert in environmental matters. Mr. Henty reminded that these homes are getting low assessments due to the possibility of the hazardous waste.
Mr. Romans asked if he could return in two weeks to continue. It was decided that this would be on the agenda each time until completed.
The applicant will return February 27, 2008.
ADJOURN MEETING
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn this Public Hearing.
Motion Passed 7-0
Meeting adjourned at 11:05 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jill Hageman-Clark
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