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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
December 10, 2008
The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at the Town Hall located at 4401 Route 31, Clay, New York on the 10th day of December, 2008. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lepkowski at 7:30 PM and upon roll being called, the following were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski Chairman
Bruce Johnson Deputy Chairman
Karen Guinup Member
Hal Henty Member
Allen Kovac Member
James Sharpe Member
Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney
Doug Wickman C&S Engineers
David Balcer Town Planner
Mark Territo Commissioner of Planning and
Development
Jill Hageman-Clark Planning Board Secretary
ABSENT: John Dougherty Member
Minutes of Previous Meeting
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Bruce Johnson to approve the minutes of the previous meeting.
Motion Passed 6-0
Public Hearings:
2008-10-4 Group One Development, LLC – Zone Change Recommendation, RA-100
to R-15, north side of Maple Road
Hal Romans was present for the applicant.
The applicant wishes to change the zone for 10 acres on the north side of Maple Road to Caughdenoy Road excluding the parcel that the house is located on. Mr. Romans stated that the applicant is proposing to divide and build 19 lots however that number may be adjusted due to drainage and other necessities. The property is currently zoned RA-100, which could be subdivided into 4 lots in that zone. In addition Mr. Romans said that there will be a stub road. Ms. Guinup stated that the board would like a cul-de-sac instead and that there should be access to Maple Road per the Onondaga County Planning Boards recommendation. Mr. Romans said that the developer is willing to work with the town. Mr. Johnson asked if the Martin property would be exclusively zoned RA-100. Mr. Romans stated that the parcel is existing non-conforming, adding that the Martins had been approached about being part of the zone change and that they were not interested.
Chairman Lepkowski reminded that this was an open Public Hearing and asked if there were any questions from the audience. Marissa Cubniak stated that she lives off of Maple Road on Gatewood, and that she is a student at CNS and has lived there all of her life. She would like to know why development is continuing when the school systems are unable to handle the load. She added that the increase of development is like an addiction. Mr. Balcer stated that he and a representative from Cicero meet with the school board once a year to update them on housing trends in the CNS School District. Mr. Chatfield explained that the landowner has the right to develop his property, seeking a zone change if appropriate. Russ Mitchell said that he would like to see an entrance onto Route 481 to reduce the traffic congestion. Glen Southerden, a resident from the east side of Maple Road said that the size of the homes is not consistent with the other properties in that area. Bruce Bresdelia asked about the ‘pond’ to the north and it was stated that the pond was designed for stormwater runoff. He then asked if sewers presently handle this. Mr. Romans replied that these lots will all have public sewers. Richard Frye asked what the square footage of the homes would be. John Russo, developer said that they will be smaller single family ranches, adding that the target group will be empty nesters and that the homes would be about 1500 square feet.
The Chairman asked if there were any more questions and there were none. He added that the residents should attend the Town Board Meeting to voice their concerns. The Chairman then closed the Public Hearing stating that the Planning Board would make a Recommendation at a later date.
Old Business: Hearings Closed
2007-4-4 John E. Davis/Davis Ventures LLC, Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to HC-1, 5064, 5154 & 5170 State Route 31 (Adjourned from 14 previous meetings)
*2007-4-6 Richard J. Alt & Donald W. Alt, Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to HC-1, 5236 & Vacant Land, State Route 31 (Adjourned from 14 previous meetings)
*2008-10-1 Clay Park, LLC, Zone Change Recommendation – RA-100 to HC-1 and R-TH, NYS Route No. 31 & Caughdenoy Road (southwest corner) (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
Chairman Lepkowski stated that the Board would hear case 2007-4-4, 2007-4-6 and 2008-10-1 together.
Hal Romans was present for all three applicants. Mr. Romans gave a brief overview of the Zone Change applications. He discussed the Northern Use Land Study as well as the traffic studies that have been conducted. He stated that Alt and Davis have control of the land and would make the road. He added that Clay Park LLC is a continuation. The new traffic study indicates dedicated left turn lanes and traffic control lights at Sterns and State Route 31 as well as at Sterns and Caughdenoy Roads. Mr. Romans added that all three of the developers are willing to work together on the parallel Road. He added that even with out the zone change applications or new development there will eventually need to be signals at these intersections. The Chairman asked if there were any questions.
Russ Mitchell said that he likes this plan with the parallel road, but wants to see the road developed sooner rather than later and does not want it to become a road to nowhere.
Chairman Lepkowski said that he would close the Public Hearings for all three cases and asked for a Recommendation.
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by Karen Guinup to Recommend that all three Zone Changes, 2007-4-4, 2007-4-6 & 2008-10-1 be approved because it will be consistent with the Land Use Study conducted for the area, based on the following conditions:
The Zone Change approval is conditional upon the parallel road being constructed. The parallel road shall have an 80’ Right-of-Way, and no lot shall have acess to Route 31, only the parallel road. Highway mitigation for Route 31 will be determined at the Site Plan phase of the project.
Motion Passed 6-0
2007-8-9 Truax & Hovey (3), Site Plan – 4483 Buckley Road (Adjourned from 13 previous meetings)
No one was present for the applicant. The applicant was waiting to hear from NYS regarding a variance for the fire hydrant, but had been notified that this application would be denied with out prejudice if no one appeared for this meeting. NYS granted the variance on September 29, 2008.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Jim Sharpe to deny this application without prejudice based on the ongoing absence at the Planning Board Meetings.
Motion Passed 6-0
2007-12-3 Group One Development, LLC (3) Site Plan– Corner of Route 31 & Henry Clay Blvd. (Adjourned from 9 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by Jim Sharpe, seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn this Public Hearing until January 14, 2009.
Motion Passed 6-0
2008-8-5 HDL Property LLC (3) Site Plan, 7256 Buckley Road (Walgreens) (Adjourned from 3 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment as they are in the process of obtaining variances from the Zoning Board of Appeals.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this Public Hearing until January 28, 2009, after the applicant appears before the Zoning Board of Appeals.
Motion Passed 6-0
2008-10-3 Barrett Paving Materials, Inc. (3) – Site Plan, 4530 Wetzel Road
(Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
Fred Meyers was present for the applicant.
Mr. Meyers illustrated the modifications to the plan adding that hey have addressed all of the concerns by the board at the previous meeting. The extended front addition has been removed from the plan, the roadway has been added across the front, there are two entrances and they have added a silt fence. Mr. Myers said that they had difficulty with the fire department. He added that they have filed the subdivision map. The Chairman asked if the lot lines have been removed form the Site Plan and they have. He asked if there was a hydrant and there is across from the property. He asked if legal and engineering were ok with the plan and they were.
The Chairman reminded all present that this was an open Public Hearing and asked if there were any questions from the audience. Hearing none he closed the Public Hearing.
A motion was made Karen Guinup, seconded by Jim Sharpe to adopt a resolution using standard form #10 that the Site Plan submitted by Barrett Paving Materials Inc., be declared a negative declaration as there appears to be no environmental impact which could not be mitigated and does not involve any other agencies including the Federal Government.
Motion Passed 6-0
A motion was made Karen Guinup, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adopt a resolution using standard form #20 granting Site Plan approval to Barrett Paving Materials Inc.case # 2008-10-3 based on a map by DW Hanning File # J080075; dated 9/8/2008 last revised 12/05/2008; subject to the following conditions:
s All legal and engineering approvals.
Motion Passed 6-0
New Business: Signs
Napa Permit # 40620
Mr. Romans was present for the applicant.
The applicant modified his previous application by changing the color of the pole from blue to gray. The applicant will need to add the street number to the sign. There was a lengthy discussion regarding this sign and it was decided that the Board would approve the sign as follows.
A motion was made by Walter Lepkowski, seconded by Hal Henty to approve the following sign for Napa Auto Parts store; 32square feet Napa Auto Parts sign on a 15’ pole to encased by Aluminum cladding, 2.5’ x1’ wide. The sign would be gray with the street numbers on both sides of the sign with internal illumination to meet code. The revised sign drawing will be provided to the Commissioner of Planning and Development prior to being built.
Motion Passed 6-0
Valvoline Permit # 40661, Adjourned from the November 12, 2008 meeting
The applicant is proposing a sign that is not consistent with the size of the surrounding business signs. After much discussion the Board decided that the applicant should resubmit another sign and that it should not be larger than the existing Valvoline sign on Route 31 in addition the sign needs to have the street numbers on it.
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by Jim Sharpe to adjourn this application to the next meeting, January 14, 2009.
Motion Passed 6-0
Allstate Permit # 40689
The applicant s proposing a face change for the existing sign on Route 31. the sign would fit the same box the only changes being the agent name and phone number.
A Motion was made by Jim Sharpe, seconded by Allen Kovac to accept this sign as proposed.
Motion Passed 6-0
Malara Eye Care Permit # 40685
The applicant is proposing a sign for the business located a t 8395 Oswego Road. The proposed sign is within the Town Code.
Hal Henty said that he was not in favor of the drop down part of the sign below the façade.
Jim Sharpe agreed adding that he was against this sign as proposed, the applicant should remove the bottom section, or fit the sign within the façade.
Karen Guinup said that the sign is within the code.
The Board voted and the vote was split; 3 in favor and 3 against.
The vote was as follows:
Hal Henty - Against
Karen Guinup – In Favor
Bruce Johnson - In Favor
Walter Lepkowski – In Favor
Allen Kovac – Against
James Sharpe – Against
The Chairman stated that the applicant could resubmit his application.
Work Session
Woodside Developers, Inc. Woodside Runne, PDD Project Plan Discussion
The Planning Board and the applicant discussed the progress on this PDD application.
ADJOURN MEETING
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by James Sharpe to adjourn.
Motion Passed 6-0
Meeting adjourned at 9:20 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jill Hageman-Clark
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