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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
November 12, 2008
The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at the Town Hall located at 4401 Route 31, Clay, New York on the 12th day of November, 2008. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lepkowski at 7:30 PM and upon roll being called, the following were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski Chairman
Bruce Johnson Deputy Chairman
Karen Guinup Member
John Dougherty Member
Hal Henty Member
Allen Kovac Member
Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney
Ron DeTota C&S Engineers
David Balcer Town Planner
Mark Territo Commissioner of Planning and Development
Jill Hageman-Clark Planning Board Secretary
ABSENT:
James Sharpe Member
Minutes of Previous Meeting
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by John Dougherty to approve the minutes of the previous meeting.
Motion Passed 6-0
Public Hearings:
2008-10-3 Barrett Paving Materials, Inc. (3) Site Plan, 4530 Wetzel Rd.
Fred Meyers of Barrett Paving was present for the applicant.
Mr. Meyers stated that they wish to build a 30 x 48 foot addition to be used as front office space. There will be no increase in staff. In addition he plans to construct a pole barn to be use to house construction tools. The applicant has obtained administrative approval for the Preliminary Plat combining three lots into one. Mr. Henty inquired as to whether this had been done. Mr. Territo explained that everything pertaining to the Town had been completed. However, the applicant has yet to file the Plat map with the County. There was a discussion and the applicant stated that he was not aware that he needed to file the map. Mr. Chatfield stated that it must be clear that no building permits are to be issued until the map is filed. The Chairman said that the applicant must remove the lot lines and revise the map to November 12, 2008. Ms. Guinup said that she was not comfortable approving it with out seeing the changes reflected on the plan. Mr. Johnson said that he agreed with Ms. Guinup. Mr. Kovac also concurred adding that it should be handled cautiously in a prudent way. The Chairman stated that the Onondaga County Planning Board indicated that they are O.K. with the plan but recommend that they show the drainage and Stormwater runoff mitigation on the Site Plan. Mr. DeTota stated that the area is under the 1 acre threshold and that it would have a negligible effect on the infrastructure. The Chairman voiced his concerns. Mr. DeTota explained that the stormwater would runoff into ditches and swales. The discussion then turned to the Fire Marshall’s comments about the hydrant location and the gravel areas and the impact that it would have on the equipment. Mr. DeTota said that he would like to see the control measures for erosion and sediment control. The Chairman explained that the applicant will need to remove the lot lines on the topography map. They must also show the hydrants. Mr. Johnson said that he would like top see the access shown to the pole barn. The Chairman asked if it will be paved and it will not, it will be crushed gravel. They discussed the possibility of moving the office addition in the front to another location to avoid the need to obtain a variance from the ZBA.
The Chairman said that he would leave the Public Hearing open.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn to December 10, 2008.
Motion Passed 6-0
2007-4-4 John E. Davis/Davis Ventures LLC, Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to HC-1, 5064, 5154 & 5170 State Route 31 (Adjourned from 13 previous meetings)
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Bruce Johnson, to adjourn the Public Hearing to December 10, 2008.
Motion Passed 6-0
2007-4-6 Richard J. Alt & Donald W. Alt, Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to HC-1, 5236 & Vacant Land, State Route 31 (Adjourned from 13 previous meetings)
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Bruce Johnson, to adjourn the Public Hearing to December 10, 2008.
Motion Passed 6-0
2007-8-9 Truax & Hovey (3)- Site Plan 4483 Buckley Rd. (Adjourned from 10 previous meetings)
No one was present for the applicant to present to the Board. The Board directed the Planning staff to contact the applicant.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that the Commissioner of Planning and Development should send the applicant a letter stating that if he does not appear that he will be denied without prejudice.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn the Public Hearing to December 10, 2008, adding that the Commissioner of Planning and Development will notify the applicant that he must be present or he will be denied without prejudice.
Motion Passed 6-0
2008-6-1 Clay South Development Co., LLC (3), Amended Site Plan, South Side NYS Route 31 (Lowe’s out parcel)(Adjourned from 3 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment to January 14, 2009.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Hal Henty to adjourn the Public Hearing to January 14, 2009.
Motion Passed 6-0
2008-7-3 West Taft Road Associates (3), Preliminary Plat, 4820 West Taft Road(Adjourned from 3 previous meetings)
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Karen Guinup, to adjourn the Public Hearing to January 14, 2008.
Motion Passed 6-0
2008-8-5 HDL Property LLC (3) Site Plan, 7256 Buckley Road (Walgreens) (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
Hal Romans, Seth Jensen & Bill Feraldo were present for the applicant.
Mr. Romans began by discussing the improvements that have been made to the application. They have added more landscaping as requested by the Planning Board and provided a planting scheduled that will include landscaping on the sidewalk. They have adjusted the lighting so that it has zero spillage at the property lines and road boundary. The Chairman asked how tall the lighting poles will need to be. At this point Bill Ferraldo discussed the lighting plan in greater depth adding that the poles will be 20’ high and a dark bronze color. The proposed wattage is 70 maintaining subtle lighting. In addition there will be an illuminated wall sign and floodlights under the canopy facing the building. Mr. Ferraldo said that he will provide pictures at the next meeting.
Mr. Dougherty asked about the appearance of the building. The tower will overhang the entrance the roof has been articulated to give the illusion of a two-story building and shields the mechanics located on the roof giving a cleaner look. The applicant adjusted the drive thru by shifting it to the east and north to allow a grater turning radius as the cars enter the drive-thru. This results in a decrease of the perimeter strip deeming it non-conforming and necessitating another variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals. There was a discussion about the possibility of angling the parking spaces so that the perimeter strip would not be compromised, this would result in the angling or loss of a few parking spaces. Mr. Jensen said that he would delve deeper into this and explore the options.
The discussion turned to the improved façade to the east and north sides of the building where the applicant has broken up the vastness by incorporating a red brick band. The applicant would like the Planning Board to recommend to the Zoning Board of Appeals that the height variance is a result of the request of the Planning Board and that the applicant has made every reasonable effort to meet the requests of said Board. The Chairman said that this should be reflected in the minutes and applauded the applicant for their diligence with this board. Ms. Guinup agreed adding that the applicant has provided a building that exceeds the height requirements at the Planning Boards insistence for a two-story appearance. Mr. Feraldo also asked if the Board would document for the Walgreen’s home offices that this Board would like the plants to be planted into the sidewalks instead of planters. He also added that the lighting plan reflects only half of what they usually require.
The Chairman said that he prefers a monument style sign. Mr. Balcer said that the sign does not meet the setback requirements of 25’. There was also a discussion about the illuminated apothecary jar that is located within a window and set back on an interior wall. There was a long discussion about whether or not this is calculated as part of a wall sign.
The applicant said that he will make some revisions for the next meeting
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by Hal Henty to adjourn this Public Hearing to December 10, 2008.
Motion Passed 6-0
2008-10-1 Clay Park, LLC, Zone Change Recommendation, RA-100 to HC-1 & R-TH – NYS Route 31 & Caughdenoy Road (southwest corner) (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by Hal Henty, to adjourn the Public Hearing to December 10, 2008.
Motion Passed 6-0
Old Business: Hearings Closed
NONE
New Business:
2008-11-1 Country Meadow, Sect. “F” Group One Development, LLC, Final Plat,
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adopt a resolution using standard form # 40, granting Final Plat Approval based on a map by Ianuzi and Romans dated 2/19/2008; file number 2868.012 subject to the following:
1. All legal and engineering approvals.
Motion Passed 6-0
Signs
Allen Road Office Park - Permit # 40352; Located at Allen Road and Witz Road
The applicant wishes to construct a freestanding sign that would be a 30 square feet, in an O-2 Office Zone that allow 32 square foot maximum. The sign is shown on the drawing to meet the 25 feet setback requirement. The new sign code states that the address must be displayed on the sign. There was a discussion about the number being displayed on the building and if that would be sufficient. It would.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Hal Henty to approve the sign for Allergy & Asthma, BHC & BCG located at Allen and Witz Roads and the Face change to the existing sign on East Taft Road. No conditions were imposed.
Motion Passed 6-0
Northeast Transport - Permit # 40635; Located at 7708 Maltladge Drive
The applicant wishes to construct a projection sign to display where the business is located. The proposed sign will be a 29”X18” sign to be located on the property in the industrial zone.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by John Dougherty to approve the sign for North East Transport, located at 7708 Maltladge Drive, subject to the following conditions:
1. That the applicant adds the street address to the presented sign.
Motion Passed 6-0
Valvoline - Permit # 40661; Located at 7855 Oswego Road
The applicant wishes to install a new site sign as well as new wall signs. Several members of the Board indicated that they would like to see what the existing Valvoline signs look like and the other signs in the area. The Board also wants to compare the recently approved signs at the Valvoline facility on Route 31. It was further recommended that the applicant be advised to remove the illegal “wind dancer” placed in the front yard (which is a sign). The Board stated the “enter” sign which is an information sign should not have a logo or business name on it. If it has a logo or business name on it, it becomes a sign used for advertising
Motion Passed 6-0
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn to December 10, 2008.
Napa – Permit # 40620; Located at 3567 State Route 31
The applicant is proposing a site sign that is 15’ tall. The sign measures 32 square feet. There was a very lengthy discussion about the necessity of a 2.5-foot width for the pole part of the sign. It was determined that it was not structurally necessary that the reason would be more to advertise or draw attention to the business, therefore the dimensions for the post should be configured into the total measurements of the sign. There was also a discussion about the illumination of the sign. Mr. Lepkowski would like to know what the foot-candles are at the four foot distance from the sign.
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn to December 10, 2008.
Motion Passed 6-0
Work Session
Woodside Developers, Inc. Woodside Runne, PDD Project Plan Discussion
Hal Romans was present to discuss the project with the Board. A short discussion ensued. The applicant will return to the next meeting.
ADJOURN MEETING
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn.
Motion Passed 6-0
Meeting adjourned at 10:50 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jill Hageman-Clark
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