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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
October 10, 2007
The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at the Town Hall located at 4401 Route 31, Clay, New York on the 10th day of October, 2007. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lepkowski at 7:30 PM and upon roll being called, the following were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski Chairman
Bruce Johnson Deputy Chairman
Karen Guinup Member
James Sharpe Member
Allen Kovac Member
John Dougherty Member
Hal Henty Member
Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney
Ron DeTota C&S Engineers
David Balcer Town Planner
Mark Territo Commissioner of Planning and Development
Jill
Hageman-Clark Planning Board Secretary
Minutes of Previous Meeting
A motion was made by James Sharpe, seconded by John Dougherty to approve the minutes of the previous meeting.
Motion Passed 7-0
Public Hearings:
2007-8-2 David N. Charron (3), Site Plan 5332 NYS Route 31
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Karen Guinup to adjourn this public hearing until October 24, 2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-8-5 William J. Adams, Jr., Zone Change Recommendation, RA100 to O-2, 8180 Oswego Road
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by James Sharpe to adjourn this public hearing until November 11,2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-8-7 Diane Blanchfield (3), Site Plan Morgan Road (north of Rt. 31) (Doggy Paddle Ranch)
2007-8-6 Diane Blanchfield, Special Permit Advisory Referral Morgan Road (north of Rt. 31) (Doggy Paddle Ranch)
Chairman Lepkowski stated that he would hear both cases consecutively.
Rod Ives from Napierala Consulting was present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing an upscale daycare facility / boarding facility for a maximum of 50 dogs, with no more than 20 overnight. There will be 1 handler for 10 dogs.
There will be an outdoor play yard with a bone shaped pool situated on a 20 acre parcel of land. The applicant stated that perhaps she would include a fenced in dog park for the community in the back of the property. They would landscape the south, east and west sides. To the north there is a possibility of wetlands, this is being explored by the DEC and the Army Corp. of Engineers.
The building would be constructed of brick on the front with kennels in the rear of the building. The boarded dogs would stay in suites. The existing vegetation would buffer the noise.
The potential guests would require a spay/neuter certificate and proof of current vaccinations in addition to social testing to insure that the pet is compatible with other guests.
There was a discussion about the ability to keep the odor to a minimum. Mr. Ives stated that the applicant is proposing compatible building materials, air handling system and double bagging solid waste. In addition they are proposing a rigorous cleaning schedule.
Chairman Lepkowski said that the Town Board is requesting information regarding the traffic and noise that would be generated by this business. Mr. Ives did state that the guests would not be outside at night, insuring reduction of noise during the night time hours. Chairman Lepkowski asked if the facility would be staffed 24 hours a day. Mr. Ives said that it would.
Mr. Dougherty asked if this will be the first facility of this nature that the applicant would own. Mr. Ives said that it is, however Ms. Blanchfield has worked at two such facilities in the south.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there was a possibility of the applicant moving the proposed building to the east part of the property. Mr. Ives stated that the applicant is trying to minimize the land disturbance. It was suggested that perhaps if the applicant moved the building back the trees could provide a buffer to reduce the noise. Mr. Balcer stated that the residents are more concerned with the traffic and the drainage than the noise.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any questions. Paul Parsons of 8610 Morgan Road stated that his property is located south of the proposed dog day care. Mr. Parsons expressed his concern with traffic as well as the desire to preserve the hamlet of Euclid. Mr. Parsons provided the board with some of the structures still in use that are dated back as far as the early 1800s.
Russ Mitchell stated that he was surprised that Ms. Blanchfield was not present to speak on her behalf. He did state however that he felt that this application had marketability.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that the Planning Board would make a recommendation to the Town Board for the Special Permit. Mr. Johnson stated that before he makes a decision, he would like to have the opportunity to look at the site. Ms. Guinup stated that she would like to see all of the information that the Town Board receives before making a recommendation.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that he would leave both of the public hearings open.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn Planning Board case 2007-8-6 (Special Permit) to October 24, 2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by Karen Guinup to adjourn Planning Board case 2007-8-7 (Site Plan) to November 14, 2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-8-9 Truax & Hovey (3), Site Plan 4483 Buckley Road
Joe Mastriani was present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing a building at the north east quadrant of the Morgan and Buckley Roads. The building would be constructed of 6 fire proof insulation with a pitched roof (no rest room) and overhead doors. The new building would be beige in color and be used for cold storage.
There was a discussion as to where the fire hydrant is. It is across the street.
Mr. Henty asked if there is a retail sales area and feels that there may be more parking required.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if Mr. Balcer or Mr. Territo had the last site plan. Mr. DeTota stated that to his knowledge the last site plan was from the late 1990s. Chairman Lepkowski stated that the distance from the building to the lot line should be shown on the site plan. The chairman said that the board should review the last site plan and bring it up to date. The chairman also reminded that retail sales are not allowed in an industrial zone.
There was a discussion about whether an I-1 or I-2 zone may be a better fit. Mr. Chatfield suggested that perhaps the I-1 would be appropriate in the old code. He asked if it could be expanded if that was the case. That would be up to the zoning enforcement officer to decide if a pre-existing non-conforming lot would be acceptable.
The chairman stated that he would leave the public hearing open.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Karen Guinup to adjourn to October 24, 2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-8-6 Diane Blanchfield, Special Permit Advisory Referral Morgan Road (north of Rt. 31) (Doggy Paddle Ranch)
Old Business: Adjourned Hearings
2007-4-4 John E. Davis/Davis Ventures LLC, Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to HC-1, 5064, 5154 & 5170 State Route 31 (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by James Sharpe, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn until 11/14/2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-4-6 Richard J. Alt & Donald W. Alt, Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to HC-1, 5236 & Vacant Land, State Route 31 (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by James Sharpe to adjourn until 11/14/2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
7:30 P.M. 2007-6-2 Thomas Hafner - Zone Change Recommendation, ½ LuC-2 & ½ NC-1 to LuC-2, 5224 W. Taft Road (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
Hal Romans was present for the applicant.
The applicant is requesting a zone change so that the lot will all be zoned LuC-2.
The lot line adjustment was done administratively by David Tessier in August of 2006.
There was a discussion about the way the names are listed on the map. Mr. Chatfield stated that the names must be the same on the deeds for the zone change to take place administratively.
The names must be the same on the deeds. Mr. Chatfield stated that the applicant should have obtained an affidavit of name.
Mr. Henty asked if the map had been filed. Mr. Romans stated that it had. Chairman Lepkowski said that the Town Board was waiting for a recommendation from the Planning Board.
Ms. Guinup stated that it was difficult to make a recommendation when the Town Board still had the hearing open. There is the possibility of making a recommendation based on only some of the information. Mr. Johnson concurred that the TB must be clear on whether the Planning Board makes a recommendation before or after the TB closes the Public Hearing. Commissioner Territo stated that the Town Board closed the public hearing August 20, 2007.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any questions, hearing none he closed the public hearing.
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by James Sharpe using standard form #50 Recommending to the Town Board that the amended change of zone LuC-2, as requested by
Thomas Hafner as there appears to be no negative impact on the environment and it will create a uniformly zoned lot.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-6-3 Thomas Hafner (3) Site Plan, 5224 W. Taft Road (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
Hal Romans was present for the applicant.
The applicant obtained the variance for the 11 x 4 vestibule at the entrance of the restaurant. Mr. Romans also pointed out that most of the former Monroe Muffler building had been demolished leaving a partial building to be used for storage for patio furniture and seasonal equipment.
There was a lengthy discussion about the number of parking spaces and the curb cuts. The county recommends that the applicant close the curb cuts to the east of the intersection, leaving the entrance directly opposite Allen Road as the sole ingress and egress for the business.
In addition there was a discussion about the landscaping plan. The chairman stated that he would like to see more landscaping.
Mr. Johnson suggested taking six parking spaces from the front of the property and landscaping that area close to the road instead. Chairman Lepkowski agreed stating that he would like to see the parking area closest to the road removed, replacing it with landscaping. Mr. Johnson asked if there were only three handicapped parking spaces to be provided. Mr. Romans stated that it was so. The discussion turned to the possibility of placing a 4 strip of grass at the road and providing an additional 9 parking spaces directly along the front of the building.
The chairman suggested that the applicant perform a traffic study to determine if a left turn lane is necessary to enter the restaurant. He also stated that the applicant should have a written agreement for the non-owned lot stating that the applicant would have use of the property for a determined period of time.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any questions from the audience. There were none. The chairman stated that he would leave the public hearing open.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this public hearing to October 24, 2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-6-5 Roger L. Burdick & No. Syracuse Central School (3) Preliminary Plat, 5500 E. Taft Road (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by Hal Henty, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn until 12/7/2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
07-7-1 Taft Allen LC, Zone Change Recommendation RC-1 to
HC-1, 5219 & 5225 W. Taft Road (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
Tim Frateschi, attorney with Harris Beach was present for the applicant.
The applicant wishes to obtain a zone change and merge the two properties to be used as retail space and office space. The last Town Board meeting decided that the property would access from Witz Drive. However it was later discovered that Witz Drive is a private road and that an easement was never obtained therefore there are no egress/ ingress rights from Witz Drive.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding easements and access and why the map was not filed granting access.
The Onondaga County Planning Board recommends against this case requiring a super majority. They discussed the possibility of gaining access through the property owned by Marcia and Michael
Hafner. Again there was a lengthy discussion.
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by John Dougherty using standard form #50 Recommending to the Town Board that the amended change of zone requested by Taft Allen LLC at 5219 & 5225 West Taft Road from RC-1 to HC-1 be Approved. The reasons supporting this are:
1. HC1 Is a more compatible zone with the surrounding parcels on West Taft Road.
2. No traffic issues have been addressed yet.
3. Over ride no access on Allen Road because County D.O.T. recommended access from Allen Road.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-7-4 Paul Fallon (3) Site Plan, 4820 W. Taft Road (Adjourned from 3 previous meetings)
There was no one present for the applicant.
Chairman Lepkowski moved that the Commissioner of Planning and Development contact the applicant and let them know that they are scheduled to appear 10/24/2007. If they do not return that they will be denied without prejudice.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn to 10/24/2007 pending denial without prejudice if no one is present.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-8-1 Suburban Square I.N.C. / Salvatore Casale (3) Site Plan, 7990 Oswego Road (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
There was no one present for the applicant.
Chairman Lepkowski moved that the Commissioner of Planning and Development contact the applicant and let them know that they are scheduled to appear 10/24/2007. If they do not return that they will be denied without prejudice.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn to 10/24/2007 pending denial without prejudice if no one is present.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-8-4 Jay G. Bernhardt / JGB Enterprises, Inc. (3) - Site Plan, 4855 Executive Drive (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
Rod Ives from Naparella Consulting was present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing to square off the building. The hydrant would remain in the same position to the south easterly part of the parcel. It was recommended that the applicant regrade for
stormwater.
There was a discussion about the number of parking spaces as the easement reduces the amount of spaces available. Mr. DeTota stated that this does not meet with his satisfaction.
Mr. Chatfield stated that the applicant needs to obtain subdivision approval prior to site plan approval. A lengthy discussion followed and the outcome was that the applicant must go to the County for a referral.
The discussion revealed that the county has no record of a subdivision from 2004. In addition the current tax map shows (3 deeds) will convey easements, private road to Executive Drive.
It was decided that the Commissioner of Planning and Development will refer the site Plan and Subdivision to the County Planning Board, by doing this it should clarify the unfiled easements.
The chairman stated that he would leave the public hearing open.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by John Dougherty to adjourn this public hearing until December 12, 2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
Old Business: Hearings Closed
2007-6-4 Roger L. Burdick Zone Change Recommendation, RC-1 to GOV,
5500 E. Taft Road (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
The applicant withdrew his application.
New Business:
2007-6-6 Roger L. Burdick & No. Syracuse Central School Final Plat (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
The applicant requested an adjournment.
A motion was made by James Sharpe, seconded by Hal Henty to adjourn this public hearing until 12/12/2007.
Motion Passed 7-0
2007-8-8 Merle Builders, Inc. Amended Final Plat, Block 9 Copperstone Woods
A motion was made using standard form #40, by Karen Guinup, seconded by John Dougherty, granting Amended Final Plat approval to Merle Builders for Block 9 of Copperstone Woods based on a map by Applied Earth Tech, dated 8/1/2007; with no revisions, file # 2410.2f, subject to all Legal and Engineering approvals.
Motion Passed 7-0
ADJOURN MEETING
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this Public Hearing.
Motion Passed 7-0
Meeting adjourned at 12:05 AM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jill Hageman-Clark
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