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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
August 9, 2006
The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at
the Town Hall located at 4401 Route 31, Clay, New York on the 9th day of August 2006.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lepkowski at 7:30 PM and upon roll being called, the
following were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski Chairman
Bruce Johnson Deputy Chairman
Karen Guinup Member
James Sharpe Member
Casey Jordan Member
Allen Kovac Member
John Dougherty Member
Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney
Ron DeTota C&S Engineers
Mary Moskowitz Planner
Jill Hageman-Clark Planning Board Secretary
Approval of Minutes:
A Motion was made by Casey Jordan, and seconded by Jim Sharpe to approve the minutes of July
12, 2006 as presented.
Motion Passed 7-0
Public Hearings:
06-6-2 Mark Emmi, Zone Change Recommendation, RA-100 to R-15- 7907 Morgan Road, west
side between Wetzel Road and the railroad. Hal Romans, Surveyor, was present for the applicant.
The applicant is requesting a zone change for the property located at 7907 Morgan Road. The
applicant will be requesting that the 12.1 acre parcel be subdivided. This would enable the applicant
to build an additional home. There is currently one house on the site where the owner lives. The
applicant wants to divide the 1.84 parcel into two, one being 1.5 acres and the remaining one would
be .34 acres.
Mr. Johnson asked why the applicant is not requesting a zone change for the entire property.
He also mentioned that this year the owner has not farmed the land and was curious if the owner
would do so in the future. Mr. Romans stated that the applicant wishes to continue farming the land, and is currently allowing
the land to go fallow, but will resume farming in the future. Mr. Jordan asked why the applicant would not divide the parcel into two equal lots.
Mr. Romans said that the lots were divided as such for mortgage purposes.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that the applicant needs to obtain the required variances before the zone
change could be approved.
Mr. Kovac asked about the possibility of the driveway becoming a road in the future.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any questions from the audience. Hearing none he then
closed the Public Hearing and stated that a Zone Change recommendation would be made at a later
date.
06-6-3 Jim Breed (3) Preliminary Plat, 8209 Maple Road
06-6-4 James Breed, Final Plat - 8209 Maple Road
Hal Romans, Surveyor, was present for the applicant.
The applicant is proposing to build a second house on the 6.378 acre property at 8209 Maple Road.
The applicant has met with the county DOT for the driveway for lot 2. The applicant has a copy of
the approved septic system. The county DOT has looked at the final plan.
Mr. Detota stated that the hydrant needs to be shown on the map. Mr. Detota also wants a
description of the drainage easements.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if anyone in the audience had any questions. Hearing none, he closed
the Public Hearing.
A Motion was made by Al Kovac, seconded by Jim Sharpe to adopt a resolution using a standard
form #10 that the Preliminary Platproposed by Mr. Jim Breed be declared a negative declaration as
there appears to be no environmental impact which could not be mitigated and does not involve any
other agencies including the Federal Government.
Motion Passed 7-0
A motion to move to final plat was made by Mr. Johnson, seconded by Casey Jordan.
Motion Passed 7-0
A Motion made by Bruce Johnson, Seconded by Karen Guinup to adopt a resolution using a standard
form #40 granting Final Plat approval based on a map by Ianuzi & Romans, P.C. dated 6/19/2006
last revision date 8/9/2006, having a file number 1199 subject to all Legal and Engineering
approvals.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-6-6 Ozzula Ent. Inc. (3) Site Plan - 8324 Oswego Road, next to Wilson Farms.
The applicant faxed a request to adjourn this matter to the next Planning Board meeting.
A motion was made by Jim Sharpe, Seconded by Al Kovac to adjourn this Public Hearing until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-6-7 Northside Baptist Church (3) Site Plan, at 7965 Oswego Road, at Gettman Road.
Richard Wicks, Associated Architects of Syracuse, Matt Naporelli, and Pastor Bruce Aubery, of
Northside Baptist Church were present for the applicant.
The applicant is requesting approval to expand the existing structure to 37,210 square feet. The
expansion would be consistent with the existing structure.
The applicant has purchased the parcel south of the church and plans to use this for additional
parking. Mr. Johnson asked how many parking spaces the applicant currently has.
The applicant stated that the church currently has 65 spaces and would be required to have 72 with
the new addition. The applicant also stated that they have an agreement with the Seneca Mall
owners that would allow parishioners to use any and all of the mall spaces for church activities.
Furthermore, The mall keeps the parking lot lit and maintained for the church. The applicant stated
that they do not plan on moving from this spot and with predicted expansion they could require
additional expansion within five years.
They also would like to purchase the parcel between Route 57 and Gettman Road.
Chairman Lepkowski asked what the proposed expansion would look like.
The building would be constructed from a wood frame with siding that exactly matches that existing
siding. The applicant stated that with the new addition the church would seat 500 to 700 people.
There was a lengthy discussion about how many parking spaces were actually required for that
capacity.. Mr. Johnson mentioned that it is unlikely that only 72 spaces would be required for that
large a capacity. After reviewing the Zoning Code, it was decided that it is 10 spaces for every 100
square feet, or 370 spaces for the 37,000 square foot structure. Ms. Moskowitz stated that the
Zoning Code does allow for shared off-site parking within 500 feet of the primary land use upon
Planning Board review. Mr. Dougherty questioned the validity of the parking agreement in the
future, for example if the mall were under new ownership.
Mr. Bob Michelson, Moyers Corners Fire Department, shared his concerns regarding limited fire
access. Mr. Michelson also stated that it would be wiser for the church to install a sprinkler system
for the entire building not just the addition. Pastor Aubery said that he would look into that.
Mr. Johnson stated that many issues needed to be clarified, including, a recalculation of the
necessary amount of required parking spaces.
Chairman Lepkowski asked about lighting.
Mr. Johnson asked what hours the lights would be used. The applicant stated that the mall lights run
constantly and the church lights would be on a timer. The applicant also stated that they would
summit a photometric plan.
Matt Naporelli discussed the grading plan with regard to the drainage. Mr. Naporelli will submit a
proposal providing mitigation to Mr. DeTota’s office.
A motion was made by Casey Jordan, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this Public Hearing
until September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
OLD BUSINESS: Adjourned Hearings
06-2-5 Jon Burdick (3) Preliminary Plat, 8478 Oswego Road (2 lots) (Adjourned from 6
previous meetings.
The applicant requested adjournment to the next Planning Board meeting.
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, Seconded by Jim Sharpe to adjourn this Public Hearing until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-4-1 Jon Burdick (3) Site Plan, 8481 Oswego Road (Adjourned from 5 previous meetings)
The applicant requested adjournment to the next Planning Board meeting.
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, Seconded by Jim Sharpe to adjourn this Public Hearing until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-4-9 Development Assistance Group, LLC Zone Change Recommendation, RA-100 to PDD -
3715 (and vacant) Route 31, north side, just west of the railroad tracks (Amedore Homes)
(Adjourned from 3 previous meetings) The applicant faxed a request to adjourn this matter to the next Planning Board meeting.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Casey Jordan to adjourn this Public Hearing
until September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-4-12 Syracuse Clay Associates , LLC Zone Change Recommendation, R-100 to PPD -
northeast corner of Route 31 and Oswego Road (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings)
(Wal-Mart) No one was present for the applicant.
A motion was made by Casey Jordan, seconded by Bruce Johnson , to adjourn this Public Hearing
until September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-4-13 Al Caza Contractors (3) Preliminary Plat, Burnet Road, 500 feet north of Route 31 (7
lots) (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
No one was presented for the applicant.
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by Al Kovac to adjourn this Public Hearing until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-5-1 COR Laser Drive Company, LLC, Zone Change Recommendation, RC-1 and RA-100
to R-APT - north of Route 31, west of Dell Center Drive and Laser Drive (Adjourned from 3
previous meetings)
The applicant faxed a request to adjourn this matter to the next Planning Board meeting.
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, Seconded by Casey Jordan to adjourn this Public Hearing
until September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-5-2 COR Laser Drive Company, LLC, (3) Preliminary Plat on the south side of VerPlank
Road, north of the COR Shopping Plaza (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
The applicant faxed a request to adjourn this matter to the next Planning Board meeting.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, Seconded by Casey Jordan to adjourn this Public Hearing
until September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-5-5 Napolitano Route 31 Company, LLC, Zone Change Recommendation, R-Apt and RA-100 to RC-1, on the south side of Route 31, across from the COR Center (Lowes) (Adjourned
from 3 previous meetings)
No one was present for the applicant.
A motion was made by Al Kovac, seconded by Casey Jordan to adjourn this Public Hearing until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
Old Business: Hearings Closed
06-4-10 AJM Management (3) Site Plan, south side of West Taft Road, 1000 feet west of
Buckley Road in the North Medical Center Campus (Kinney Drugs)(Adjourned from 2
previous meetings)
John Murphy of AJM Development and Greg Sgromo of Dunn Sgromo Engineers were present.
The Town Board will hear the request for a Special Permit for a drive-in service at the next Town
Board meeting. The applicant has submitted an application for subdivision. This matter was
referred to the Onondaga Planning Board. The applicant is also working with Commissioner David
Tessier on closing the current driveway.
Mr. Murphy discussed the architecture of the proposed building. The building will be constructed
of the same brick used on the existing North Medical Center. There be yellow, beige and white
stucco with red brick and brick columns. Mr. Johnson stated that he thought that the columns could be placed on the back side of the building
as well as it would be more appealing to the residents of Janus Park.
Greg Sgromo discussed the landscaping, and stated that it would be hazardous to have landscaping
in the front of the building, however, they have added significant landscaping to the other areas.
Mr. Johnson asked if they had looked into the possibility of housing the dumpsters within the
building as mentioned at the previous meeting. Mr. Murphy stated that this would not be a
possibility however the dumpsters would be enclosed in a structure made of brick to match the
building.
Mr. Jordan asked about a lighting plan. Greg Sgromo stated that they were waiting for the
photometric plans, but would present them at the next meeting. Mr. Sgromo did state that the
lighting would be consistent with the current lighting at North Medical Center.
Chairman Lepkowski reminded the applicant that the variances need to be listed on the site plan.
A lengthy discussion took place about approving the Site Plan for the just Kinney’s parcel or to look
at this as a application as a modification of the larger North Medical Center campus, including Janus
Park, Site Plan. Mr. Johnson suggested that Mr. Chatfield, Mr. Tessier and Mr. Murphy should have
a meeting to discuss some of these details.
The applicant will revise the landscaping plan.
A motion was made by Casey Jordan, seconded by Karen Guinup to adjourn this matter until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
New Business: Signs
American Granby, Inc. - 7652 Morgan Road, Permit # 38,349
Melvin Moore, landscape architect for American Granby was present for the applicant.
The applicant is requesting permission for a free standing sign on Morgan Road.
The proposed sign is 5' by 9.6' long, single faced. The sign is not illuminated.
Mr. Jordan stated that he would like to see the sign match the color of the building.
The applicant stated that the colors match exactly.
The material of the sign would be made of a coated foam. The paint is a powder base.
The sign the sign would be placed on a pipe base.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Casey Jordan to approve the sign for American
Granby, Inc located at 7652 Morgran Road, Permit # 38,349 as present.
Motion Passed 7-0
Orkin Properties, Plaza 57, - Elmcrest Road, Permit # 38,260
Ray Masori from Sign A Rama was present for the applicant.
The applicant is requesting a permit to place a sign on Elmcrest Road across from the entrance to
Wegmans, advertising Plaza 57.
The proposed sign would be a free standing, 10' high, non-illuminated sign of varying colors.
The sign would be 25' from the road at Elmcrest Road and 4' from the driveway.
Mr. Johnson stated that he thought the base of the sign should be larger.
Mr. Masouri stated that the distance from the driveway prohibits a larger base.
Mr. Kovac asked who would be responsible for maintaining the lawn around the sign.
Mr. Masouri stated that the applicant would be responsible.
Mr. Johnson stated that he would prefer uniform colors on the signs.
Mr. Dougherty stated that it would be more appealing if the background color was consistent.
Ms. Guinup stated that she was not happy with the sign. The Planning Board was in agreement that the sign should be uniform in color.
The applicant agreed to that.
Ms. Guinup stated that the top panel should be as it was proposed, green background with white
lettering. The remaining panels would be white with green lettering (as on the Starbucks panel).
The applicant was in agreement.
Motion made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Bruce to approve the sign for Orkin Properties located
at 7567 Oswego Road- Plaza 57, Permit # 38,260 subject to the following conditions:
1. The top panel will be green with white lettering and the remaining panels will be
white with green lettering.
Motion Passed 7-0
Old Business: Special Permit Recommendation
06-5-3 Syracuse SMSA Limited Partnership d/b/a Verizon Wireless, between Gaskin Road and
Oswego Road, approximately 800' south of Linda Lane - Public Utility Special Permit,
Recommendation to Town Board. The applicant faxed a request to adjourn this matter until the next Planning Board meeting.
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by Jim Sharpe to adjourn this matter until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-5-9 Syracuse SMSA Limited Partnership d/b/a Verizon Wireless, 8313 Henry Clay Blvd. - Public Utility Special Permit, Recommendation to Town Board
The applicant faxed a request to adjourn this matter until the next Planning Board meeting.
A motion was made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by Jim Sharpe to adjourn this matter until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
Adjourn Meeting
A motion was made by John Doherty, seconded by Jim Sharpe to adjourn this Meeting until
September 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
Meeting Adjourned at 11:04 pm.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jill Hageman-Clark
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