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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
February 8, 2006 The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at the Town Hall, located at 4401 Route 31, Clay, New York on the 8th of February 2006. Chairman Walter Lepkowski called the meeting to order at 7:30 PM and upon the roll being called, the following were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski
Chairman
Bruce Johnson
Deputy Chairman
Allen Kovac
Member
Karen Guinup
Member
James Sharpe
Member
Casey Jordan
Member
Scott Chatfield
Planning Board Attorney
Ron DeTota
C&S Engineers
David Tessier
Commissioner of Planning & Development
Mary Moskowitz Planner
Karen Dates
Planning Board Secretary
ABSENT: Ferdinand Lepinske
Member
Approval of Minutes:
Bruce Johnson made a motion, seconded by James Sharpe, to approve the minutes of January 25, 2006 as presented.
Public Hearings:
06-1-2 DSI Development, LLC (3) Preliminary Plat on the west side of Henry Clay Boulevard, 1500 feet north of Buckley Road.
Joe Durand, Engineer, Gary Spring, Cheryl Bush, and Greg Chapman, owners, were present
Mr. Durand noticed that when looking at the subdivision plan that an area variance for the spring storage facility was not reflected on the subdivision plan. When talking with Mr. Tessier there were some other comments that did not come up on the subdivision plan. He gave a brief overview of what has been done.
Mr. Durand described the plans a re-subdivision of two lots into three lots. The three lot subdivision would include one lot owned by Spring Storage and two lots retained by DSI. The applicant was before the board last year to retain site plan approval for Spring Storage. During that time a drainage district for the property, and an extended water line district was created and forwarded to county planning. On the north side of the entrance is Spring Storage and it is 11.56 acres. Parcel two is the one DSI is on now and it is about 17.5 acres. The total project parcel is about 29 acres. The existing lot number two is purposed to be split. The DSI lot in the rear with the existing building is about 5 acres.
The new plans reflect changes to make the site compatible with the new zoning ordinance.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any questions from the Planning Board.
Mr. Kovac asked which parcels are currently being used for something. The applicant stated, currently two lots are being used. One lot is being used by Gary Spring and the other lot by DSI Trucking.
Chairman Lepkowski asked the purpose of the subdivision. The purpose is to divide up the lots in case they wanted to sell the third lot later on. The right of way will include a common drive for all three parcels.
The driveway shows 50’ of road frontage but County Planning Board stated that the County Highway Department requires 60 ft. wide for a commercial driveway. Required frontage is not a function of the actual width of the driveway and it is not to be dedicated to the County. Mr. Tessier said the driveway shown on the plan with an angle to the south should be removed and a straight out driveway with a right angle access to Henry Clay Blvd would be preferred and would eliminate the need for 60’ of road frontage. Mr. Chatfield stated if the Planning Board decides to vote against the County’s recommended modification, the Board would need to give a reason why they do not agree with the County’s modification, or that 50’ is sufficient.
Cheryl Bush, DSI, said right now the buildings are used for a truck warehouse, one as a shop and the other as a drivers building.
Concerns about lot coverage were discussed and the buildings do meet the minimum requirements.
Mr. DeTota addressed drainage concerns and said the drainage issue has been resolved during the site plan process.
A concern regarding fire protection was stated, however, there is sufficient water pressure to meet fire protection needs.
Mr. DeTota said there are a few items to clarify regarding the leach field. Today it might not be a problem considering it is under the same ownership, but one of the buildings on lot 3 has a sewer pipe crossing lot 2 to go to a leach field in lot 1, so there would be two different entities sharing one leach field.
Mr. Durand said they propose a shared 50’ sewer easement to that leach field and that each lot would be able to stand-alone concerning sewerage needs.
Mr. DeTota said the site plan brought to the board not too long ago showed different easements that are not shown on the subdivision map. These easements have to be corrected.
Mr. DeTota commented that a pole barn is shown right next to the proposed property line, and the set back requires 25 ft. If the barn is going to remain, the applicant will need to determine other options.
Mr. Mitchell asked if the previously approved site plan on the back 5 acres (lot 2), was still valid? Chairman Lepkowski answered this lot has changed now therefore the site plan has been altered. Mr. Chatfield indicated that the site plan that was approved had a particular boundary, and to the extent that this subdivision changes that boundary, that the previously approved site plan is no longer valid.
Chairman Lepkowski stated the public hearing should be left open. The applicant should refine some engineering issues, and will return on February 22nd meeting.
Motion was made by Karen Guinup and seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this hearing to February 22nd.
Motion Passed 6-0
Old Business: Adjourned Hearings
05-12-1 Subdivisions Inc., Zone Change Recommendation RA-100 to R-10 on the east side of Morgan Rd, opposite Fairway East Drive (Adjourned from 2 previous meetings).
Thomas Oot, presenting, Robert Benevento, and Mr. Gabor were present.
Mr. Oot made a similar presentation to the Town Board on Monday night.
Mr. Oot stated the proposal is to have the parcel developed in three phases, ultimately to have connections out on to Waterhouse Road, where ultimately the bulk of the traffic would go. Mr. Gabor has agreed to it conceptually. The applicant is proposing something to fill the 500’ transition zone between the industrial property to the south and the Gabor farm to the north side of Waterhouse Road. Any homeowners in this buffer will be given special notice.
The applicant plans to use Article 278, clustering under Town law. The applicant has also met with Mr. Jim Stelter at DOT to talk about traffic. Mr. Stelter is of the opinion that the proposed road should be restricted at some point in the future at the entrance to Morgan Road. His recommendation is the town approve the subdivision in three phases, and prior to the construction of the third phase the access to Waterhouse Road be created. At that time the entrance onto Morgan Road would be modified to allow entrance for northbound traffic and exit for northbound traffic, only. All other traffic going into these properties would have to access off of Waterhouse Road. To take it one step further he would like to see this occur across the road at Fairways East once the traffic signal is installed at the intersection of Waterhouse Road.
Chairman Lepkowski stated concern about any further expansion of Morgan Rd.
Mr. Kovac asked if the right in and right out across from Fairways East is a good design, because right now you can come out of Fairway East development and make a left hand turn onto Morgan Road.
Mr. Oot said he went to the DOT with the thought that Mr. Stetler would want to see an intersection in another location.
Chairman Lepkowski said for comparison to look at an intersection on Henry Clay Blvd, or Rte. 57, that is a four-way intersection that is not controlled by a traffic light.
Mr. Oot asked who would have the ultimate decision about this and is willing to work with everyone on this.
Commissioner Tessier said the Town Board has the final decision on the Zone Change. They reviewed this Monday night and adjourned their hearing until March 6th, and their intention is to get together with some of the other property owners in this area and talk about this intersection at Waterhouse Road and the transition zone between residential and industrial. Commissioner Tessier recommend the zone change itself to be put on hold until the Town Board can deal with some of these ideas.
Motion made by Casey Jordan and seconded by Allen Kovac to adjourn this hearing to March 8th.
Motion passed 6-0
05-11-1 Angelo Chiodo (3) Preliminary Plat, southeast corner of Bear and Allen Road (8 lots)
Dave Hannig, representing
This was adjourned because Onondaga County Planning Board indicated this matter was going to include a land lock parcel and they believed that lot #7 was going to be reserved for future development.
Mr. Hannig said the owner of the property, Angelo Chiodo, is going to build his own home on lot #7. He moved the driveway down to serve the three lots including the owner’s home. The applicant is trying to have the absolute minimal impact on the property. Previous plans of this property showed 29 lots, and the applicant is proposing only 8 lots. The minimum lots are about 3.5 times the current zoning minimum of 10,000 square feet. There is no future development planned on lot # 7. The sanitary sewer will also serve all parcels.
Chairman Lepkowski suggested that the applicant contact Jim Stelter of Onondaga County DOT regarding the driveways.
Mr. Tessier commented the County has requested that on the final plat show the driveway centerlines, to make a lot easier to issue a building permit. Then we know exactly what is going to happen.
Mr. DeTota said he would like to wait on preliminary plat approval until he meets with the applicant on the drainage easement. He wants to be a little cautious about the drainage easement between lot 1 & 2.
Mr. Johnson asked if there is already a driveway cut onto Bear Road for lot 6 and indicated he felt it was better to bring the driveway in from the new road that lot 5, 8, 7 are on, rather than adding another onto Bear Road.
Mr. Hannig said he could take a look at that but the applicant did not want to have too many people using the same driveway, because then it will appear to be a road. The preference would be to keep a maximum on that driveway of 3 houses.
Motion to adjourn this decision to the February 22nd meeting by Mr. Sharpe and seconded by Karen Guinup.
Motion passed 6-0
05-11-5 Harry Patel (3) Site Plan, 3948 Route 31, on the north side of Pepperidge Way, next to Outback Steakhouse (Hampton Inn)
Dan Faldzinski, engineer, and Jagat Sharma, architect, presented.
Items that needed attention from the last meeting.
1. Look of the emergency gate on the property would have a wrought iron look as the Town requested and an emergency use only on the gate sign would be on the gate.
2. Light poles on the site were lowered to 24’ to match Outback Steakhouse. The wattage was changed and a panel on the back of lights to block out the light was added.
3. Landscaping to include 20’ Red Oaks trees.
4. The dumpster is to look like the structure and be landscaped.
Chairman Lepkowski suggested the wattage be reduced from 400 to 250. The applicant stated if there is any problem with the wattage they could bring it back to the Board for modification.
Regarding case 05-11-5, Karen Guinup made a motion, seconded by Bruce Johnson, to adopt a resolution using standard form #10 that the site plan proposed by Harry Patel for the Hampton Inn on Pepperidge Way, be declared a negative declaration, as there appears to be no environmental impacts that can not be mitigated, and does not involve any other agencies including the Federal Government.
Motion passed 6-0
Site plan approval
Motion made by Karen Guinup, 2nd by Bruce Johnson, regarding case 05-11-5 using standard resolution form #20 granting site plan approval based on drawings prepared by Jagat P. Sharma, Architect, dated as follows: Title Sheet February 2006, sheet SP1 July 2005 last revised January 30th 2006, sheet A200 dated September 1, 2004, sheets PD1, PD2, PD3, ES1, ES2, and LP1 all dated November 2005 last revised January 30th 2006, all subject to the following conditions:
1. A cross access easement between Hampton Inn and Outback Steakhouse, satisfactory to the Planning Board Attorney
2. The northwest entrance to be designated as emergency entrance only as designated on the sign
3. Lighting fixtures will be reduced to 250 watts, however if the applicant finds that the 250 watts is going to present a problem, they can return to the Planning Board for a revision.
4. Any other legal or engineering issues
Motion passed 6-0
05-11-6 Colonial Village LLC Site Plan for an office park, southeast corner of Oswego Road and Provo Drive
Bob Eggleston, Architect, Dan Faldzinski, engineer, and Tim Faulkner, traffic engineer, presented
Mr. Eggleston presented a revised site plan that incorporates a new dumpster detail and incorporates black out shield for the lights facing the residential areas. Post lights and flood lights on the front of the buildings will be on from dusk to 10:00 PM.
The dumpster is going to be an 8” masonry wall with 16” brick piers, and the sides covered with cement board siding. There will be a 30” minimum pedestrian access to the dumpsters and two large gates for servicing.
Traffic engineer Tim Faulkner reported that creating two exiting lanes on Provo Drive would make a more dangerous situation than now. With a car going to turn left out of Provo Drive and a car trying to make a right hand turn into Provo drive will make it difficult to see if you are sitting in a small car and the other car is a truck or SUV, then you can’t see on coming traffic. He would prefer to use a single lane exit. DOT usually prefers a single lane exit.
Mr. Tessier noted that the Town Board was strongly in favor of putting that extra lane in on Provo Drive for traffic purposes. They are actually willing to perform the work with their own highway department with contributions from the developer and one adjacent to the north. He also talked to Jim Stelter, of County DOT, and he is in favor of making an extra lane. He would like to make that a requirement of the site plan that the extra lane is added with contribution of this developer and the developer to the north. The estimated cost is approximately $10,000.00.
Mr. Eggleston consulted with his team and they know that Bill Adams, owner, is aware of the potential cost of about $10,000.00. He would agree to contribute his fair portion of the cost, not to exceed $5,000.00.
Mr. Tessier commented that there would be some drainage structures and easements that will have to be presented to the Town Board at some point and money can be retained at that time.
Mr. DeTota indicated he did generate a letter for this project. He has reviewed the plans and they have met all the Town engineering requirements. The applicant proposes to extend public sewer to serve this property as well as build two storage water management facilities to off set the increase of the storm water run off. Those improvements will be public and the applicant will have to file a petition with the Town Board and proceed with the contract process. They have submitted a drainage analysis that Mr. Detota is in the process of reviewing.
Motion made by Bruce Johnson and seconded by Casey Jordan to adopt a resolution using standard form #10 that the Site Plan proposed by Colonial Village LLC, on the southeast corner of Oswego Road and Provo Drive, be given a negative declaration, since it appears that all significant environmental issues can be mitigated, and it does not involve any other permit granting agencies including the Federal Government.
Motion passed 6-0
Motion made by Bruce Johnson, seconded by James Sharpe, to adopt a resolution using standard form #20 granting Site Plan approval to Colonial Village LLC for an office park, on the southeast corner of Oswego Road and Provo Drive, based upon a set of drawings made by Plumley Engineering, PC, project number 2005149, comprised of Sheet SP-1 dated December 2005, last revised February 2, 2006, Sheets ES-1 and ES-2 both dated January 2006, revised February 2, 2006, Sheet PD-1 dated November 2005, revised February 2, 2006, Sheets PD-2 and PD-3 both dated October 2005, revised February 2, 2006, and a lighting plan design by RA Macalray, dated January 20, 2006 drawing #28601405A3. Subject to the following conditions:
1. All legal and engineering requirements approval.
2. An additional lane be provided on Provo Drive for right hand or left hand turns onto Oswego Road, the cost of which is to be shared by this developer and the site developer to the north of Provo Drive. Colonial Village LLC has agreed to contribute half of the estimated cost of this drive lane, up to $5,000.
3. The lights will not be on between 10:00PM and sunrise, with the exception of the wall lights.
Motion passed 6-0
New Business
Sign-Weichert Realtors
Henry Clay Blvd. just south of Wetzel Road. The brown block building in the Industrial Zone 64 sq ft .is allowed, 16 sq. ft, 6 ft. high freestanding sign is proposed.
Motion made by Bruce Johnson seconded by Allen Kovac to approve the sign as presented.
Motion passed 6-0
Motion made to adjourn the meeting by Allen Kovac and seconded by James Sharpe at 10:15PM
Motion passed 6-0
Respectfully submitted,
Karen Dates
Planning Board Secretary
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