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Town
of Clay
Approved
Planning Board Minutes
October 25, 2006
The regular meeting of the Planning Board of the Town of Clay, County of Onondaga was held at
the Town Hall located at 4401 Route 31, Clay, New York on the 25th day of October. The meeting
was called to order by Chairman Lepkowski at 7:30 PM and upon roll being called, the following
were:
PRESENT: Walter Lepkowski Chairman
Bruce Johnson Deputy Chairman
Karen Guinup Member
James Sharpe Member
Casey Jordan Member
Allen Kovac Member
John Dougherty Member
Scott Chatfield Planning Board Attorney
Ron DeTota C&S Engineers
Mary Moskowitz Planner
Jill
Hageman-Clark Planning Board Secretary
Approval of Minutes:
A Motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by James Sharpe to approve the minutes of October
11, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
Public Hearings:
NONE.
Old Business: Adjourned Hearings
06-4-11 Tri-R Reality & Development Co. (3), Site Plan for a Kinney’s Drug Store, 7608
Oswego Road, in front of Bayberry Plaza (Adjourned from 3 previous meetings)
Joe Janowski owner of Tri-R Reality and Development, and Peter Crissey of Crissey Architectural
were present.
Mr. Crissey stated that the applicant had received letters from the County DOT approving the
driveway location for the proposed new entrance from Route 57.
The applicant has moved the location of the dumpsters from the side of building to the back of
the building. The applicant also has added landscaping to the north side of the building, as well as
additional landscaping to act as a barrier between the dental office on Blackberry and the Metro
Mattress expansion. Mr. Janowski also stated that they had shown on the site plan future parking.
Mr. Janowski stated that the ZBA has granted variances for the setbacks.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if the applicant was asking for approval for Metro Mattress expansion.
Mr. Janowski stated that he would like to get approval during site plan process if that were possible.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that might be a possibility, however, the variance for the landscape
perimeter strip and side yard setback should be taken care of before site plan approval could be
granted.
There was a lengthy discussion about the parking. Mary Moskowitz stated that her calculations
showed 499 parking spaces but that 20-30 spaces do not meet the setback requirements. Chairman
Lepkowski asked again about the fenced in postal parking and if those spots were added into the
calculated spaces.
There was a discussion about the marking off of the proposed Kinney store, as mentioned in previous
meetings, so that the Planning Board and Town Board could visualize the site. After some discussion
it was decided that the applicant would mark the four corners of the proposed building on Sunday
November 5, 2006 and Monday November 6, 2006. The Town Board will be notified before their
November 6th meeting.
There was also a discussion about snow removal with regards to the proposed new Kinney building.
Several members of the Bayberry community stated that in the past snow has been piled in the area
of the proposed construction. Mr. Janowski stated that he would have the snow removed if this
building is constructed. Ellen Dagnald, a resident of Bayberry, stated that the plaza is very
dangerous during the summer when the farmers market is at the Plaza.
Bob Michelson of the Moyers Corners Fire Department asked about the location of the sprinklers
on the construction. Mr. Michelson indicated to the applicant that it would be acceptable to place
the hydrant in the island.
Chairman Lepkowski mentioned that the rear of the building needs some attention, including more
landscaping. The dumpsters for the entire plaza were discussed. It was suggested tenants use the
same waste removal. Mr. Janowski indicated that he would work toward that end.
Ellen Dagnald asked where the deliveries would be made. Mr. Janowski stated that the deliveries
would be made in the rear of the proposed building. Bruce Johnson asked what time they would be
made. The applicant responded, approximately 7:00 AM.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that the applicant should remove the proposed addition from the site
plan, remove the future parking spaces, and add spaces to cover lost spaces due to post office truck
use.
Karen Guinup stated that the next step would be to make a recommendation to the Town Board
about the Special Permit.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if anyone in the audience had any further questions, hearing none, he
asked for a motion to adjourn this hearing.
A Motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this Public Hearing
until November 8, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-4-13 Al Caza Contractors (3) Preliminary Plat, Burnet Road, 500 feet north of Route 31 (7
lots)(Adjourned from 5 previous meetings)
Chairman Lepkowski called for Applicant. No one was present, so the chairman stated that he
would table this matter.
A Motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Karen Guinup to adjourn this Public Hearing
until November 8, 2006.
06-5-1 COR Laser Drive Company,LLC Zone Change Recommendation, RC-1 and RA-100
to R-Apt. north of Route 31, west of Dell Center Drive and Laser Drive (Adjourned from 6
previous meetings)
06-2-5 COR Laser Drive Company , LLC (4) Preliminary Plat - on the south side of Ver Plank
Road, north of Cor Shopping Plaza (Adjourned from 4 previous meetings)
06-5-5 Napolitano Route 31 Company, LLC (4) Zone Change Recommendation, R-Apt and
RA-100 to RC-1, on the south side of Route 31, across from the COR Center
(Lowes) (Adjourned from 6 previous meetings)
Catherine Johnson, attorney for COR Development, Andrew Hart, engineer for Bergmann
Associates, Amy Dake Traffic Consultant with SRF Associates and Carlie Hanson, architect with
QPK Design were present for the applicant.
Catherine Johnson stated that the applicannt is looking for a recommendation from the Planning
Board and had taken all of the comments from the last meeting and responded to them in an Final
Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS). The Town Board has received and is reviewing the
FEIS. After the Town Boards reviews the document, copies will be distributed to the Planning Board.
Andy Hart showed that a second connection had been added to the proposed plaza, in addition an
emergency exit for Home Depot loading dock. The Clay South site access will have
vertical islands with landscaping
Carlie Hanson discussed changes to the proposed Lowes building. The amount of blue used in the
building would be reduced, in addition, the amount of blue used at the entrance would also be
minimized. The walk would be covered and the building would have two windows. There would
be stucco columns and a covered lumber yard. There would be four decorative lights added.
John Dougherty asked if the Lowes sign was larger. Ms. Hanson stated that it was not larger.
Amy Dake discussed the traffic flow at Dell Center Drive. Ron Detota stated that he was happy
with the traffic analysis.
Catherine Johnson stated that they were looking for a recommendation from the Planning Board, but
it appeared that the board was not ready to give one. Ms. Johnson asked if they could return on
November 8, 2006.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that he would like to hear the comments forwarded to the Town Board.
Ms. Johnson stated that there were very few comments but will provide them once the Town Board
approves them. Mary Moskowitz stated that she will send them out to the Planning Board members.
Chairman Lepkowski and Scott Chatfield discussed whether the Town Board will close the Public
Hearing before the Planning Board makes its recommendation or not. Chairman Lepkowski stated
that if the Town Board accepts the FEIS on the 6th November, they should return on the 8th of
November.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if anyone from the public had any questions. Hearing none, he asked
for a motion to adjourn this matter.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Casey Jordan to adjourn all three public hearings
until November 8, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-6-6 Ozulla Ent. Inc. (3) Site Plan - 8324 Oswego Road. Nappa Store (adjourned from
3 previous meetings)
Hal Romans of Ianuzzi and Romans was present for the applicant.
Mr. Romans passed out an updated plan for the proposed NAPA Auto store. He indicated that the
roof had been changed as discussed in the previous meeting form a flat roof to pitched roof giving
a more residential look to the structure. The facade of the building is earth tone and the blue band
is gone from the building.
Allen Kovac asked if the mechanicals are now housed in the attic area. Mr. Romans responded that
they were. He indicated that all four sides of the building are the same with a cupola on the top.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that this was going in the right direction.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any questions from the audience. There were none.
The chairman stated that he would keep the public hearing open.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this public hearing
until December 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-8-1 Group One Development, LLC (3) Preliminary Plat- for 96 lots, Country Meadow
Sections E,F,G, off Caughdenoy Road, north of Justin Drive (Adjourned from 1 previous
meeting)
Hal Romans of Ianuzzi and Romans and John Russo were present for the applicant.
The applicant is seeking preliminary plat approval for 96 lots. The applicant stated that they had met
with Ron Detota. They had met with the property owner to the north regarding connectivity as
discussed previously. The property owner stated that he is not interested in access. He likes his
pond and the natural wild life. Chairman Lepkowski suggested that access to Maple Road may be
a better alternative.
Chairman Lepkowski stated that the Planning Board had received a letter from the County DOT that
indicated they would like to see a traffic study of the purposed intersection for this
project. Chairman Lepkowski stated that approval could not be granted because a SEQR determination could
not be reached until the county is satisfied with the study. John Russo stated that he was very upset
that the County had not sent him the decision regarding this request. Mr. Russo asked if the Board
could over-rule this recommendation. Chairman Lepkowski stated that they would not.
Hal Romans stated that he would clarify this with the County and requested that they be able to
return on November 8, 2006.
Chairman Lepkowski asked if there were any questions from the audience, hearing none, he stated
that the Public Hearing would be left open and asked for a motion to adjourn this matter.
A motion made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Casey Jordan to adjourn this hearing until November
8, 2006.
06-8-2 Peter C. & Deena S. Procopio (3) Site Plan - for an Office Building, northwest corner
of Carrriage Parkway and West Taft Road (Adjourned from 1 previous meeting)
The Applicant called and requested an Adjournment.
A motion was made by Casey Jordan, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this public hearing until
December 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
Old Business: Hearings Closed
06-8-3 Niagara Car Wash LLC - Preliminary Plat- 3567 and 3571 State Route 31(2 lots)
(Adjourned from 1 previous meeting) The Applicant called and requested an Adjournment.
A motion was made by Karen Guinup, seconded by James Sharpe to adjourn this matter until
December 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
06-8-6 Niagara Car Wash Inc. (3) Site Plan -3567 and 3571 State Route 31 (Adjourned from
1 previous meeting) The Applicant called and requested an Adjournment.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this matter until
December 13, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
New Business: Signs
Alliance Bank, 7799 Oswego Road, Permit # 38,600
James Hickey from Charles Signs was present for the applicant.
Mr. Hickey stated that the applicant wishes to replace the current 14' pylon sign with an illuminated
16' high pylon sign. The Applicant also wishes to reface six existing directional signs adding the
Alliance logo.
Casey Jordan asked if the new sign was a higher wattage that the existing sign. Mr. Hickey stated
that he thought that the illumination per square foot should be about the same. Chairman Lepkowski
stated that he would like to see the sign much smaller. He also mentioned the possibility of a
monument sign. Mr. Hickey stated that a monument sign would not be effective because of the way
the way the road drops down.
Allen Kovac asked if the address would be on the sign. Mr. Hickey stated that the numbers would
be on the building. Scott Chatfield mentioned that the numbers would help identify the location.
There was also a discussion regarding the 24 ATM on the sign. Bruce Johnson asked if it would be
possible to put the address on the skirt. The applicant stated that the skirt would be three sided,
therefore not an effective way to display the address. Mr. Hickey asked if the sign would be
approved with the address on the sign.
The directional signs were discussed.
A motion was made by Allen Kovac, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this matter until
November 8, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
Adjourn Meeting
A motion was made by John Dougherty, seconded by Bruce Johnson to adjourn this meeting until
November 8, 2006.
Motion Passed 7-0
Meeting Adjourned at 10:40 pm.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jill Hageman-Clark
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